Yes, christian and muslim values are very similar. Secular laws and values have taken the fangs out of christianity, for the most part, but that doesn't mean it's so much better than islam. It's just been behaving itself a bit more.

(April 6, 2016 at 8:58 am)Chad32 Wrote: Yes, christian and muslim values are very similar. Secular laws and values have taken the fangs out of christianity, for the most part, but that doesn't mean it's so much better than islam. It's just been behaving itself a bit more.

This is what I don't like about ALL religions, no matter the label worldwide. Most humans get stuck on an umbrella idea, a label, and never want to pay attention to the fact that every religion has sub sects that compete as to how the label/writings should be followed. 

Humans are mostly religious due to where they were born, and combine that with a lack of understanding that the reality is we are social and thus form groups to survive. Problem is that those ideas can be false just like the Ancient Egyptians were successful for 3,000 years centering their lives around non existent deities. 

No you cannot force any religion out of existence, but humans really need too start facing this reality in order to manage differences in a more civil manor.

If our right wing had it's way and had a majority power, and there was no constitution stopping them, we would look like far too much of the Middle East. No, most Muslims are not terrorists, but they do have a big enough minority that is causing them problems. Our Christian right minority isn't to that level and only secular law has prevented them so far from getting that far. But they do still cause problems.

(April 6, 2016 at 8:58 am)Chad32 Wrote: Yes, christian and muslim values are very similar. Secular laws and values have taken the fangs out of christianity, for the most part, but that doesn't mean it's so much better than islam. It's just been behaving itself a bit more.

True, you can derive the same values as well as the same atrocities from all holy books. Unsurprisingly so, since they all come from the same region and it's paternalistic societies.

(April 6, 2016 at 8:58 am)Chad32 Wrote: Yes, christian and muslim values are very similar. Secular laws and values have taken the fangs out of christianity, for the most part, but that doesn't mean it's so much better than islam. It's just been behaving itself a bit more.

Really?!?!?

Show me a "Fang" of CHRISTIANITY by providing Book Chapter and Verse.

Keep in mind the Holy Bible repersents 2 Religions and not just Christianity. Meaning I'm asking for BCV for a 'Christian Fang, and not a Jewish one.'

(April 8, 2016 at 10:36 am)Drich Wrote:

(April 6, 2016 at 8:58 am)Chad32 Wrote: Yes, christian and muslim values are very similar. Secular laws and values have taken the fangs out of christianity, for the most part, but that doesn't mean it's so much better than islam. It's just been behaving itself a bit more.

Really?!?!?

Show me a "Fang" of CHRISTIANITY by providing Book Chapter and Verse.

Keep in mind the Holy Bible repersents 2 Religions and not just Christianity. Meaning I'm asking for BCV for a 'Christian Fang, and not a Jewish one.'

I don't know what BCV christians have used to commit atrocities like the inquisitions, the Salem witch trials, and so forth and so on. I just know that historically christians have been plenty violent, and would continue to be today without secular values holding them back.

(April 6, 2016 at 8:58 am)Chad32 Wrote: Yes, christian and muslim values are very similar. Secular laws and values have taken the fangs out of christianity, for the most part, but that doesn't mean it's so much better than islam. It's just been behaving itself a bit more.

 . . . 78,000 (and counting) self inflicted schisms has neutered the cause like no secular atheist movement ever could.

Too bad the Islamic hordes are so vigilant about decapitating their schismatics, it's holding them back from becoming palatable.

(April 6, 2016 at 8:53 am)Brian37 Wrote: But lets forget about the history of Christianity, and it's justifications for slavery, genocide of Native Americans, sexism against women and condemnation of gays. No, see when they are dicks they are doing it for the correct god.

It's OK when Christians do it.  Because their God, which is the one true god, commands it.  Or something.