im stuck help

[Alex K]

Good point, MrNoMore, why even only count our solar system? Maybe because big M didn't know a thing about the Universe? Especially if you'd grant that the expansion thing indeed refers to cosmic expansion, leaving out the fact that there are billions of trillions of planets in that very same expanding universe is inexcusable.

[ReptilianPeon]

Good point, MrNoMore, why even only count our solar system? Maybe because big M didn't know a thing about the Universe? Especially if you'd grant that the expansion thing indeed refers to cosmic expansion, leaving out the fact that there are billions of trillions of planets in that very same expanding universe is inexcusable.

Exactly. And if String Theory is proven (or some other idea that states there are multiple universes), we will feel even smaller. I can't get my head around that many universes.

[robvalue]

They didn't know anything. People are desperate to retrofit knowledge gained though actual science to primitive texts.

But let's say they did know something which would have been hard for them to know. So what? That doesn't get us any closer to how they knew it. Unless we find a way to investigate, it would be a mystery. Defaulting to "it was god" is not valid. It doesn't even matter if the person says it came from God. It doesn't mean it did. I don't have to provide another explanation to point out "it was god" has no credible evidence to support it.

And it doesn't prove the truth of the rest of the book at all. Especially since it is full of factually inaccurate nonsense.

[Alex K]

Good point, MrNoMore, why even only count our solar system? Maybe because big M didn't know a thing about the Universe? Especially if you'd grant that the expansion thing indeed refers to cosmic expansion, leaving out the fact that there are billions of trillions of planets in that very same expanding universe is inexcusable.

Exactly. And if String Theory is proven (or some other idea that states there are multiple universes), we will feel even smaller. I can't get my head around that many universes.

Even if the multiverse isn't corroborated somehow-, we are talking observable universe. The whole will probably be incredibly larger. The flatness of the universe we see kind of suggests that we only see a tiny speck of the whole.

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[LostLocke]

[ReptilianPeon]

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[Alex K]

There's too much (probably; I'm not a astrophysicist) dark energy for a "big crunch". But big bounce? I've to really looked into that, but given increases in entropy is just seem to outlandish to me. Physics breaks down at T=0 so I guess almost anything is possible?

The Big Bounce is just a combination of Bang and Crunch as a cyclical process. Again this is looking less likely.

If the dark energy is a cosmological constant, which is by far the simplest explanation, the universe is not going to recollapse but will approach an exponential expansion. It could be (though there is currently no evidence) that dark energy comes from a dynamical quantity (christened a quintessence field by theorists). In that case, the value of dark energy could become smaller over time, which would enable a recollapse. There is so far no real evidence for a time-dependent dark energy value, though.

[Aoi Magi]

i'm so stuck ... help

i was thinking about universe recently and thought that there might be a god i'm not sure though i can not deny or prove either. but those holy books which are bible and qura'n they are like a really hateful, sexist , homophobic books . how can we know if they are man-made or not ? how did the holy books guessed all those scientific facts before human being did ? did they copy the older nations science (greek - maya)? or god gave them some of his knowledge ? i'm really confused and lost between fake proofs and real ones

it was so old i mean there was no technology like nowadays . how did they find out 
find out that there are 11 planets.
"And it is We who have constructed the heaven with might, and verily, it is We who are steadily expanding it."
(The Qur'an, 51:47) that earth expands
and that mountains prevent earthquake
seems like there is no response for that.

and if mohamad stole these info from ancients , myths say that he couldnt read or write so

How did they find out indeed! I also feel amazed by how much the ancient people were able to achieve with their limited knowledge and technology, and how much the modern people are able to misinterpret and ignore despite the vast amount of knowledge available.


Mohammad might've been illiterate, but that doesn't mean he didn't have a functioning brain and ears. In ancient times knowledge mostly spread through words of mouth, so it is quite normal for him to know of the prevalent theories and ideas of his time.

All religious scripts claim to have scientific facts which are later discovered, but the this is if there truly were scientific facts we wouldn't have had the need to rediscover them in the first place.