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im stuck help
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im stuck help
i'm so stuck ... help

i was thinking about universe recently and thought that there might be a god i'm not sure though i can not deny or prove either. but those holy books which are bible and qura'n they are like a really hateful, sexist , homophobic books . how can we know if they are man-made or not ? how did the holy books guessed all those scientific facts before human being did ? did they copy the older nations science (greek - maya)? or god gave them some of his knowledge ? i'm really confused and lost between fake proofs and real ones

it was so old i mean there was no technology like nowadays . how did they find out 
find out that there are 11 planets.
"And it is We who have constructed the heaven with might, and verily, it is We who are steadily expanding it."
(The Qur'an, 51:47) that earth expands
and that mountains prevent earthquake
seems like there is no response for that.

and if mohamad stole these info from ancients , myths say that he couldnt read or write so
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The Earth isn't expanding.

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#3
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There are 8 planets.

Mountains don't prevent earthquakes, they are the result (tangentially) of earthquakes.

Who is "We" in the verse there? People? "We" aren't expanding anything.

Just because ancient people weren't idiots and could make observations about their world doesn't mean that god(s) exist.
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Their quotes/observations are twisted to fit the scientific facts. Nothing more, nothing less. Man made fantasy remains fantasy.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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11 planets? It's either 8, or more than 11. Arguing for 11 seems difficult.

1. Mercury
2. Venus
3. Earth
4. Mars
5. Ceres
6. Jupiter
7. Saturn
8. Uranus
9. Neptune
10. Pluto
11. Eris
12. Makemake
13. Haumea
...
14. Sedna

There are many missing
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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(April 16, 2016 at 8:21 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: The Earth isn't expanding.

sorry didn't mean earth , it was meant the universe "big bang theory"
they assume they have guessed it before science
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(April 16, 2016 at 10:10 pm)rosechaos Wrote: sorry didn't mean earth , it was meant the universe "big bang theory"
they assume they have guessed it before science

So then, who is we? Are there multiple gods in the Qur'an?
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Is expanding as written in the arabic really meant in the sense of simply inflating it without adding new structures? Expanding in the sense of carrying on building more new stuff seems the more natural interpretation.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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"it was so old i mean there was no technology like nowadays . how did they find out 
find out that there are 11 planets."

There are over 100 BILLION galaxies in our universe. Each galaxy has tens to hundreds of billions, sometimes even trillions of stars. There are more stars in our universe than grains of sand on the Earth. Most (probably) stars, we now know, have multiple plants orbiting them. Anyone who says there are only eleven planets needs to be put in a mental asylum.

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