"Men's rights activists are pig misogynists,men don't have issues!"

[ErGingerbreadMandude]

[Excited Penguin]

[ErGingerbreadMandude]

[rexbeccarox]

But "feminism" doesn't do that. Only certain feminists do.

Have you heard about the ' no true Scotsman' fallacy?

Yes, and that was definitely not an example.

I didn't say those feminists "weren't true feminists", now did I? I have no idea if they are or not; it's not for me to judge. I'm simply pointing out that some feminists are more extreme than others, and they take it to a point that makes people uncomfortable. Pool, you're more like a puddle.

[Kitan Etos]

*Loves me some Empress, hugs*

[rexbeccarox]

Holy fuck, I just kudos'd EP.

[Excited Penguin]

Have you heard about the ' no true Scotsman' fallacy?

Yes, and that was definitely not an example.

I didn't say those feminists "weren't true feminists", now did I? I have no idea if they are or not; it's not for me to judge. I'm simply pointing out that some feminists are more extreme than others, and they take it to a point that makes people uncomfortable. Pool, you're more like a puddle.

You could've said certain feminists aren't true feminists if you also pointed out a specific objective rule for why that is and you wouldn't be committing a NTS fallacy. It only works if you're excluding certain members of a group with no reason.

[rexbeccarox]

Yes, and that was definitely not an example.

I didn't say those feminists "weren't true feminists", now did I? I have no idea if they are or not; it's not for me to judge. I'm simply pointing out that some feminists are more extreme than others, and they take it to a point that makes people uncomfortable. Pool, you're more like a puddle.

You could've said certain feminists aren't true feminists if you also pointed out a specific objective rule for why that is and you wouldn't be committing a NTS fallacy. It only works if you're excluding certain members of a group with no reason.

Maybe, maybe not, but it's not really worth it in a conversation with someone as shallow as pool.

[Excited Penguin]

Holy fuck, I just kudos'd EP.

And I kudos'd you back. It's nice, right? I almost feel fuzzy towards you now.

[Excited Penguin]

You could've said certain feminists aren't true feminists if you also pointed out a specific objective rule for why that is and you wouldn't be committing a NTS fallacy. It only works if you're excluding certain members of a group with no reason.

Maybe, maybe not, but it's not really worth it in a conversation with someone as shallow as pool.

If the person who pointed out that no true Scotsman would do a certain thing then explained why that is by pointing out that the counterexample someone gave to him was a false one, since that particular Scotsman wasn't really a Scotsman by nationality, but an Italian, how would that be fallacious? It's the same with feminism, if you can reasonably argue why someone doesn't fit the description of a feminist you're in the clear.

I find that people tend to fear ridicule so much they avoid certain common pitfalls when there's no need to do so.