God is in charge of the world.

[Foxaèr]

And I was just doing fine until the calvary arrived.

[madog]

 

 Anybody who sincerely seeks out God will find him.

I agree with that, just like anyone who seeks out father Christmas will find him .... just as long as you don't require anything outside of your head and Fiction books ....

[dyresand]

And that is relevant because????  And the bible and the OT already have justifications for killing your own child so what are you getting at?
So god tells jews to go and kill people instead of i don't know going to said people and converting them over there is hardly any logic to that.
If i were playing god or was a god i would get my point across like hey assholes i'm god don't fight each other. Yet he favors 1 group of desert
dwellers to roam around in the desert killing and slaughtering and raping people yeah... that's some really grade a morals.....

Actually, he didn't favor the Jews over anybody.  He also wreaked havoc on them as well a number of times.  Anybody who sincerely seeks out God will find him.

So what you are saying is.. you worship a abusive tyrant because you are afraid of hell and would rather be in heaven with said abuser because you are
afraid of him/her/it in so many many words...... And yes god did favor certain groups over another.... he went from one group then to another and said
kill those guys and finally ended up with the jewish people.

Then also why would i want my sins forgiven anyways...? Is it not right to stand up and take the punishment instead of
being a coward and dumping onto someone instead of facing said punishment.

[Lek]

God is just who he is.  No matter what we believe about him, God is God.

Are you going to keep using pointless one liners that mean nothing or do you want a discussion?

Dog.

OK. I believe that God is the God of the bible. Someone else believes he is the God of the Koran. Someone else the God of whatever. I am me no matter who you think I am. Saying that there have been so many beliefs about God is not an argument for saying that christianity is not true or that there isn't a God. Also God is the creator of the universe and has right to do what he wants to do with that universe. Killing for the right purpose is just and can be moral. In a life that is eternal we have no way of knowing what the purpose the suffering that we are now experiencing has. I think we can all agree that suffering for something worthwhile is a good thing. You have decided that worshiping this "evil" God is not for you and that's your privilege, but no matter how you feel doesn't change who or what God is.

[Gemini]

And I was just doing fine until the calvary arrived.

You were, you were. The calvary is indignant though. Cavalier theodicies tend to bring that out in people.

[dyresand]

Are you going to keep using pointless one liners that mean nothing or do you want a discussion?

Dog.

OK.  I believe that God is the God of the bible.  Someone else believes he is the God of the Koran

The god of the bible and the god of the koran is the same god..... 

[Lek]

Actually, he didn't favor the Jews over anybody.  He also wreaked havoc on them as well a number of times.  Anybody who sincerely seeks out God will find him.

So what you are saying is.. you worship a abusive tyrant because you are afraid of hell and would rather be in heaven with said abuser because you are
afraid of him/her/it in so many many words...... And yes god did favor certain groups over another.... he went from one group then to another and said
kill those guys and finally ended up with the jewish people.

Then also why would i want my sins forgiven anyways...? Is it not right to stand up and take the punishment instead of
being a coward and dumping onto someone instead of facing said punishment.

I worship God because he is my creator and loves me. Also, it didn't end with Jews. They were close to wiped out in 70 AB and have been persecuted ever since. Salvation is for any person, regardless of race or nationality. You go ahead and face punishment. I wouldn't call myself a coward, but rather smart.

[madog]

 

OK.  I believe that God is the God of the bible.  

 You have decided that worshiping this "evil" God is not for you and that's your privilege, but no matter how you feel doesn't change who or what God is.

The god  of a fiction book .... is the Bible the evidence of your god or a feeling derived from indoctrination?

I would not worship god even if he was fantastically good because he doesn't exist ....

[Lek]

Gotta go.  I'll be back tomorrow if possible.

[Foxaèr]

I worship God. I wouldn't call myself a coward, but rather smart.

There actually is cowardice in worshipping that which has no evidence to identify it as anything real.

Faith has been misconstrued as strength.

The true weakness is believing in something that requires faith.