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RE: Proposition 8 Ruled Unconstitutional by a Fed. Judge
August 7, 2010 at 7:30 pm
yes, yes, she is– very much so. Also, her neck is ugly, was she a man once?
obviously, I don't need to explain why any of her points were wrong. I'm sorry, but It's okay to discriminate against gays, but it's not okay to discriminate against people who discriminate against gays. Also, you keep your religious ideals to yourself they aren't making you a homosexual. (OR your children.)
Also, sidenote I saw a guy's comment on an NPR facebook link about how thinking homosexuality is okay is popular and that doesn't make it right. 
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RE: Proposition 8 Ruled Unconstitutional by a Fed. Judge
August 7, 2010 at 9:20 pm
The Onion is fantastic...and Wendy Wright is an astounding idiot.
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RE: Proposition 8 Ruled Unconstitutional by a Fed. Judge
August 9, 2010 at 9:16 am
FYI, I Merged this thread with the other one.
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RE: Proposition 8 Ruled Unconstitutional by a Fed. Judge
August 11, 2010 at 2:12 pm
Ted Olson is my new favourite conservative:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkU9n5GxCDk
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RE: Proposition 8 Ruled Unconstitutional by a Fed. Judge
August 11, 2010 at 2:44 pm
Damn. It's great to see a conservative with some sense still in him. Clearly, he's going to get his membership yanked for this, but it's still great that some people can still be a conservative and have consistent views on human rights. (As opposed to getting around that issue by considering certain people to be less than human.)
Excellent Vid. I've only seen a smaller cut of that video so it's nice to finally see the whole thing.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
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RE: Proposition 8 Ruled Unconstitutional by a Fed. Judge
August 11, 2010 at 4:28 pm
(August 5, 2010 at 9:28 am)Eilonnwy Wrote: *nods* Kagan will be in there by the time this gets there, and I can't be sure if she'll be a liberal leaning judge. If she is, it will likely come down to Anthony Kennedy.
Edit: Listening to Rachel maddow and apparently Judge Walker quoted Kennedy in his judgment and Anthony Kennedy has historical voted for gay people. So I can see a Supreme court decision going 5-4, with Kennedy, Sotomayor, Breyers, Ginsberg, and Kagan voting for gay marriage, which would effectively have implications for federal marriage.
I know I'm a cynic, El, but I don't think that would bother the republicans at all.
First off, they never seem to actually settle issues like abortion or gay rights or immigration even in areas where they have control. One might almost think that they prefer having these issues around to keep their base of mental defectives fired up for fund raising purposes.
But, they couldn't be that cynical....could they?
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RE: Proposition 8 Ruled Unconstitutional by a Fed. Judge
August 11, 2010 at 4:35 pm
(August 11, 2010 at 4:28 pm)Minimalist Wrote: First off, they never seem to actually settle issues like abortion or gay rights or immigration even in areas where they have control. One might almost think that they prefer having these issues around to keep their base of mental defectives fired up for fund raising purposes.
I wouldn't call that so much 'cynical' so much as that's the most accurate statement of the current state of republican party politics I've yet heard.
Spot on, Minimalist. Spot on.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
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RE: Proposition 8 Ruled Unconstitutional by a Fed. Judge
August 11, 2010 at 6:31 pm
I thought it might have just been me.
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RE: Proposition 8 Ruled Unconstitutional by a Fed. Judge
August 12, 2010 at 12:54 pm
(August 11, 2010 at 4:28 pm)Minimalist Wrote: First off, they never seem to actually settle issues like abortion or gay rights or immigration even in areas where they have control. One might almost think that they prefer having these issues around to keep their base of mental defectives fired up for fund raising purposes.
My theory is so they can keep the masses distracted.
"How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping." - Pascal
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RE: Proposition 8 Ruled Unconstitutional by a Fed. Judge
August 13, 2010 at 8:53 pm
"Distracted?" In a sense. But what they really need is for them to be fired up about bullshit issues while they and their business buddies steal everything that isn't nailed down.
Meanwhile.
http://apnews.excite.com/article/2010081...SPE80.html
Quote:SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - The federal judge who overturned California's same-sex marriage ban has more bad news for the measure's backers: He doubts they have the right to challenge his ruling that gay couples can begin marrying next week.
Chief U.S. District Judge Vaughn R. Walker on Thursday rejected a request to delay his decision barring Proposition 8 from taking effect until high courts can take up an appeal lodged by its supporters. One of the reasons, the judge said, is he's not sure the proponents have the authority to appeal since they would not be affected by or responsible for implementing his ruling.
By contrast, same-sex couples are being denied their constitutional rights every day they are prohibited from marrying, Walker said.
Fuck the mormons.
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