The heavy day

[Brian37]

Minor quibble, but the Macbeth quote runs "Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more. It is a tale told by an idiot; full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." I had to memorise it when I played Macbeth at school.

To be honest, I cant understand the entire play or any of his work for that matter. I only remember this line and loved it so much I wrote my own spin on it. It is the very first poem in my link.

I understood the Oedipus Trilogies though. Wrote another about Antigony too. You have a damned good memory to be in that play, Shakespeare is the toughest work to do.

[Sheed1980]

Alhamdulillah.(praise be to God). This is why Allah (God) tells us in the Qur'an to BELIEVE and DO RIGHTEOUS DEEDS. We have to do them together. U can't succeed in this life to have the pleasures of Paradise if u just believe in God but treat others like dirt and are tyrannical. Nor can u succeed if u are the nicest most kind loving person ever but u don't believe in God. So He tells us to do these together to be among the successful.

No such thing as an invisible sky wizard, by any name. The reason humans do good, is because we evolved to be social. Our species empathy is in our evolution, not old books of myth. You don't need a religion to do good or be good.

Well first u shouldn't look at Him as a sky wizard. He is God Almighty Allah, The Creator of all things. When He determines a matter He only says to it "Be" and it is. But u as everyone else has their God-given right to believe in Him and worship Him alone or not. But just as He says in the Qur'an in Ch 18 Al-Kahf The Cave, "For he who wants to believe let him believe, and he who wants to disbelieve let him disbelieve". What u have to understand is God doesn't tell us to worship Him alone and do good deeds because it increases His power or helps him be better as God. God doesn't need any of us. He is free of all needs worthy of all praise. When He tells us to do these things they are for our benefit only. If we obey Him and do what is right we shall have an eternal life with anything that we desire to have and an innumerable amount of times better than anything we can imagine in this life. But if we disobey Him, not repentant for our sins, or die in a state of unbelief then we receive a punishment worse than any imagination could produce and for eternity. So the decision is ours. U have to ask urself "what life do I want in the Hereafter?"

[SteelCurtain]

Don't they make special tampoons for 'the heavy day?'

[ReptilianPeon]

 Stars won't "fall", that's silly.  

I love that XD

Well...they could fall into a black hole. OMG, black holes confirmed in the Quran guys! Quran talks about stars falling so it must have miraculous knowledge of black holes. How could Muhammad have known about black holes?

[Brian37]

No such thing as an invisible sky wizard, by any name. The reason humans do good, is because we evolved to be social. Our species empathy is in our evolution, not old books of myth. You don't need a religion to do good or be good.

Well first u shouldn't look at Him as a sky wizard. He is God Almighty Allah, The Creator of all things. When He determines a matter He only says to it "Be" and it is. But u as everyone else has their God-given right to believe in Him and worship Him alone or not. But just as He says in the Qur'an in Ch 18 Al-Kahf The Cave, "For he who wants to believe let him believe, and he who wants to disbelieve let him disbelieve". What u have to understand is God doesn't tell us to worship Him alone and do good deeds because it increases His power or helps him be better as God. God doesn't need any of us. He is free of all needs worthy of all praise. When He tells us to do these things they are for our benefit only. If we obey Him and do what is right we shall have an eternal life with anything that we desire to have and an innumerable amount of times better than anything we can imagine in this life. But if we disobey Him, not repentant for our sins, or die in a state of unbelief then we receive a punishment worse than any imagination could produce and for eternity. So the decision is ours. U have to ask urself "what life do I want in the Hereafter?"

Why shouldn't look at him as a sky wizard? You wanting him to be real doesn't make him real and it takes suspension of critical thinking to swallow that naked assertion. Yes I do see all god/s/God/deity/supernatural claims just  like Superman and Batman and Spiderman and Harry Potter and Yoda. 

How about YOU consider humans merely swallow god claims because they mostly get sold a religion at birth and or fall for it because it gives them a false sense of comfort because of the fear of being finite? How about you consider that god claims are merely a refection of human's qualities in their own desires, narcissism, and fear?

I know too much about the age of our species and age of the planet and size of the universe to stupidly think I am the center of the planet or universe. Humans are not the center of the planet or the universe, and neither is any god claim or any religion. Our species will go extinct in the future and all the fantasies as far as any god claim or relgion will go extinct with us, and there will be no record of us, or the myths we have created.

And just like when Christians and Jews use the word "Obey", no sorry, that is the worst part of all three religions. That word reflects the dictator kings under wich blind loyalty of the tribe was expected. It has no modern reflection of western society where the rulers only rule us with our consent. I certainly have to "obey" speed limits or risk a ticket. But no cop has the right to beat the shit out of me when I am not resisting. And if a judge or politician even a president breaks the law we have recourse to remove them. The god of Abraham is an immovable position, not a voted position like in the west. Your god claim reflects the immovable royalty of the tribal times those books were written in. It has absolutely NOTHING in common with western modern political and religious pluralism. It is a dictator concept because humans back then lived under kings, and that is what kings are, DICTATORS.

[WinterHold]

Drfuzzy

Well . . . sort of.  There will come a time when the Earth will not see the sun.  This would be after the sun enters its "Red Giant" phase. The planets that are left after that phase has passed (and the Earth might not be included) will spiral outward away from the collapsing star.  Stars won't "fall", that's silly.  

http://www.universetoday.com/12648/will-...red-giant/

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The red giant phase is an early phase in my opinion. The sun will run out of fuel someday, completley. Let's discuss the ultimate fate of the universe instead:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_f...e_universe

Many possible fates are predicted by rival scientific hypotheses, including futures of both finite and infinite duration.

First, there are many fates for the end. When God mentioned "will fold the heaven like the folding of a [written] sheet for the records", then"As We began the first creation, We will repeat it.".

In simple terms, this theory states that the universe will continuously repeat the cycle of a Big Bang, followed up with a Big Crunch.

When celestial objects deviate from their gravitational orbits, and either hit other objects (due to the first getting caught in the gravitational field of the latter) or gets sucked into a black hole, then that is a "free fall"; the silly thing is your "earthly" mentality and perception of gravity.

"Approximately 1.1 billion years from now, the Sun will be 10% brighter than it is today. This increase in luminosity will also mean an increase in heat energy, one which the Earth’s atmosphere will absorb. This will trigger a runaway greenhouse effect that is similar to what turned Venus into the terrible hothouse it is today.

I believe the verse was telling us about the time, when the sun becomes a "black dwarf":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_dwarf

A black dwarf is a theoretical [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellar_remnant]stellar remnant, specifically a white dwarfthat has cooled sufficiently that it no longer emits significant heat or . 

The earth will not end in darkness, but in light and heat, as the sun expands into its "Red Giant" phase.  And yes, all life on earth will die, and after that, the seas will indeed boil off in flame.   Neither Allah or any other Deity (if they exist at all) or any advanced civilization will be able to sustain life on the earth under these conditions.  I really can't fathom why anyone would look to an old book of fables and tales about an imaginary friend instead of studying the real science of stars and solar systems.

The verse didn't speak about earth. Instead, God said:

Sura 21
( 104 )   The Day when We will fold the heaven like the folding of a [written] sheet for the records. As We began the first creation, We will repeat it. [That is] a promise binding upon Us. Indeed, We will do it.

Heaven..not earth.

[Adam Blackstar]

You forgot Sura 29:

"Sub-creatures! Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, the Traveller has come! Choose and perish!"

[Sheed1980]

Well first u shouldn't look at Him as a sky wizard. He is God Almighty Allah, The Creator of all things. When He determines a matter He only says to it "Be" and it is. But u as everyone else has their God-given right to believe in Him and worship Him alone or not. But just as He says in the Qur'an in Ch 18 Al-Kahf The Cave, "For he who wants to believe let him believe, and he who wants to disbelieve let him disbelieve". What u have to understand is God doesn't tell us to worship Him alone and do good deeds because it increases His power or helps him be better as God. God doesn't need any of us. He is free of all needs worthy of all praise. When He tells us to do these things they are for our benefit only. If we obey Him and do what is right we shall have an eternal life with anything that we desire to have and an innumerable amount of times better than anything we can imagine in this life. But if we disobey Him, not repentant for our sins, or die in a state of unbelief then we receive a punishment worse than any imagination could produce and for eternity. So the decision is ours. U have to ask urself "what life do I want in the Hereafter?"

Why shouldn't look at him as a sky wizard? You wanting him to be real doesn't make him real and it takes suspension of critical thinking to swallow that naked assertion. Yes I do see all god/s/God/deity/supernatural claims just  like Superman and Batman and Spiderman and Harry Potter and Yoda. 

How about YOU consider humans merely swallow god claims because they mostly get sold a religion at birth and or fall for it because it gives them a false sense of comfort because of the fear of being finite? How about you consider that god claims are merely a refection of human's qualities in their own desires, narcissism, and fear?

I know too much about the age of our species and age of the planet and size of the universe to stupidly think I am the center of the planet or universe. Humans are not the center of the planet or the universe, and neither is any god claim or any religion. Our species will go extinct in the future and all the fantasies as far as any god claim or relgion will go extinct with us, and there will be no record of us, or the myths we have created.

And just like when Christians and Jews use the word "Obey", no sorry, that is the worst part of all three religions. That word reflects the dictator kings under wich blind loyalty of the tribe was expected. It has no modern reflection of western society where the rulers only rule us with our consent. I certainly have to "obey" speed limits or risk a ticket. But no cop has the right to beat the shit out of me when I am not resisting. And if a judge or politician even a president breaks the law we have recourse to remove them. The god of Abraham is an immovable position, not a voted position like in the west. Your god claim reflects the immovable royalty of the tribal times those books were written in. It has absolutely NOTHING in common with western modern political and religious pluralism. It is a dictator concept because humans back then lived under kings, and that is what kings are, DICTATORS.

Well I say u should read the Qur'an the final word of God to all mankind delivered through His final messenger Muhammad pbuh. As an atheist u may be interested to know of the many mathematical, scientific, astronomical and linguistic miracles of the Qur'an, a book revealed in the 7th century when no human had knowledge of these things mentioned, which with our technology we can verify as true to this day. Proving it could only from
the knowledge and power of God.

[TubbyTubby]

Why shouldn't look at him as a sky wizard? You wanting him to be real doesn't make him real and it takes suspension of critical thinking to swallow that naked assertion. Yes I do see all god/s/God/deity/supernatural claims just  like Superman and Batman and Spiderman and Harry Potter and Yoda. 

How about YOU consider humans merely swallow god claims because they mostly get sold a religion at birth and or fall for it because it gives them a false sense of comfort because of the fear of being finite? How about you consider that god claims are merely a refection of human's qualities in their own desires, narcissism, and fear?

I know too much about the age of our species and age of the planet and size of the universe to stupidly think I am the center of the planet or universe. Humans are not the center of the planet or the universe, and neither is any god claim or any religion. Our species will go extinct in the future and all the fantasies as far as any god claim or relgion will go extinct with us, and there will be no record of us, or the myths we have created.

And just like when Christians and Jews use the word "Obey", no sorry, that is the worst part of all three religions. That word reflects the dictator kings under wich blind loyalty of the tribe was expected. It has no modern reflection of western society where the rulers only rule us with our consent. I certainly have to "obey" speed limits or risk a ticket. But no cop has the right to beat the shit out of me when I am not resisting. And if a judge or politician even a president breaks the law we have recourse to remove them. The god of Abraham is an immovable position, not a voted position like in the west. Your god claim reflects the immovable royalty of the tribal times those books were written in. It has absolutely NOTHING in common with western modern political and religious pluralism. It is a dictator concept because humans back then lived under kings, and that is what kings are, DICTATORS.

Well I say u should read the Qur'an the final word of God to all mankind delivered through His final messenger Muhammad pbuh. As an atheist u may be interested to know of the many mathematical, scientific, astronomical and linguistic miracles of the Qur'an, a book revealed in the 7th century when no human had knowledge of these things mentioned, which with our technology we can verify as true to this day. Proving it could only from
the knowledge and power of God.

Retrofitting translated ambiguous poetic 7th century drivel into whatever modern theory fits is easy.

How about you present a verse from the Koran that describes a groundbreaking scientific discovery yet to be made?

Or have the 'miracles of the Quran' ended with our present knowledge?

Oh, by the way, Joseph Smith lays claim to receiving the latest word from god (on a relatively popular basis that is, notwithstanding the rest of the multiple irrelevant nut jobs that came after him).

[Losty]

It comes after we die.

First, our current world will end.

[Quran]:

Sura 81
( 1 )   When the sun is wrapped up [in darkness]
( 2 )   And when the stars fall, dispersing,
( 3 )   And when the mountains are removed
( 4 )   And when full-term she-camels are neglected
( 5 )   And when the wild beasts are gathered
( 6 )   And when the seas are filled with flame

Our world will cease to see the sun. Stars would indeed fall and cease to exist; too. The seas would be filled with flames.

Sura 39
( 68 )   And the Horn will be blown, and whoever is in the heavens and whoever is on the earth will fall dead except whom Allah wills. Then it will be blown again, and at once they will be standing, looking on.

It's the events that follow the blow of the horn that signals the end, which is actually a beginning

Sura 21
( 104 )   The Day when We will fold the heaven like the folding of a [written] sheet for the records. As We began the first creation, We will repeat it. [That is] a promise binding upon Us. Indeed, We will do it.

Then

Sura 69
( 13 )   Then when the Horn is blown with one blast
( 14 )   And the earth and the mountains are lifted and leveled with one blow -
( 15 )   Then on that Day, the Resurrection will occur,
( 16 )   And the heaven will split [open], for that Day it is infirm.
( 17 )   And the angels are at its edges. And there will bear the Throne of your Lord above them, that Day, eight [of them].
( 18 )   That Day, you will be exhibited [for judgement]; not hidden among you is anything concealed.

That is the day. That is the hour. 
Why did you think life; this life; was so fast? Why do children die? why do people get born crippled and handicapped? why do people get born with mountains of gold? why do people are born so hungry?

Born naked and small, grow grow grow, then die out like the leaves of a tree.
Can't you smell that day, coming? that hour?

We are being tested, nothing more, nothing less. 

Sura 91
( 7 )   And [by] the soul and He who proportioned it

( 8 )   And inspired it [with discernment of] its wickedness and its righteousness,

( 9 )   He has succeeded who purifies it,
( 10 )   And he has failed who instills it [with corruption].

At the heavy day, we will get the severe punishment, or the high price.
We either win or lose.

Did life manage to fool you? ask yourself why your loved ones always leave??
They always die so fast!

Fun stuff also go away so fast. The more beautiful something is, the more quickly it ends. 
And all of us move to the heavy day, we never slow.

Remember way waaay back to that Muslim dude who always posted like this. Anyone remember his name?