Understanding the Ramadan Massacre in Orlando (David Wood)

[abaris]

I watched up until 1:32, then realized this Wood person is just another cherry-picking, quote mining fuckwit who wouldn't know a moderate Muslim if he tripped over one.

Well, it's a stoner source. What did you expect? Whenever stoner or Wyrd or scoop post any link, you can be sure, it's some radical suiting their brand of tinfoilery.

[CapnAwesome]

Yeah, Islam is the worst. I mean it literally says that the perfect example of a man is a child-fucking slaver from the 6th century. I think many many people discount how important Muhammad is to Islam.

you display the typical "kiddo crusader" mantality of the "sons of the church", it doesn't matter if you claim you're an atheist, probably you were raised and brought up in a zionist, crusading society that forgets that the biggest child fuckers on earth are the Christian monks in Italy, and that pedophilia -especially gay, balls-sucking kind of pedophilia- is Catholic based, there under the pope's throne.

Let's be honest. Muslims don't put naked kids inside holly water now, don't they ?

No..you're just wrong. The biggest child fuckers on this globe are christians.

I know I know..it's sweet to throw rocks on peoples' houses when yours is made out of glass.
I mean it's just so ironic, that the Christian countries (like Russia and America) are well known to produce kiddo porn that middle eastern Muslim kiddo fuckers use daily.

Christians make, Muslims consume, sounds like a fair trade !
But don't practice the crusading habit of "self righteousness", like, get over yourself.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/21/world/....html?_r=0
Move on, nothing here! just some horny Afghans and Marines!


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_Okina...e_incident
What about some asian food?

Don't defend the Church my fellow Deacon ! you'll just stain yourself, believe me.

What the fuck are you talking about? Muhammad wasn't a pedophile because I'm somehow a secret Christian-Zionist?? What dumbshit nonsense. I am totally anti-christian, it's just that Islam is even worse and it's worse because of Muhammad who's morality is not compatible with today.

Here is the thing about the defense that 'oh yeah, other people are pedophiles too' We in the west don't hold them up as the perfect example of a man. We acknowledge are critical and deal with the failings of our leaders and founders. Muslims have to cling to Muhammad as perfect morally, because he said that he was. As far as I know nobody has said those Afghan (and Muslim) boy rapers are morally perfect.

[abaris]

Muhammad di what every rich and mighty man at his time did. He had an arranged marriage with a child bride. Christian, muslim or jew. Everyone did it at the time. Speaking of better or worse.

It's just the idiot's argument blocking out historical realities.

[Mister Agenda]

Islam just incorporated the same BS spewed by Judaism and Christianity.  Together, they are three of the worse religions stupid people have ever believed in.  Islam isn't as racist as Judaism and Christianity but it's as ass-backwards as they are.

Read the biographies of Mo, Jesus and the Buddha, to a 5-year-old, and even they can see that one of these was an infinitely more violent role model than the others. Yes, all religions are stupid, but it's just as stupid to believe they're all as equally violent.

As Sam Harris says: religion is a nearly useless term; it's a term like "sports"; now there are sports like badminton, and there are sports like Thai Boxing; and they have almost nothing in common, apart from breathing.

Throw in the biographies of Abraham and Moses and you start to get a more complex picture.

[CapnAwesome]

Muhammad di what every rich and mighty man at his time did. He had an arranged marriage with a child bride. Christian, muslim or jew. Everyone did it at the time. Speaking of better or worse.

It's just the idiot's argument blocking out historical realities.

We don't claim moral perfection for any of those other people. That's the important part. If Christians and Jews were claiming that a pedophile and slaver was morally perfect, I'd have the same problem with them.

[CapnAwesome]

Muhammad di what every rich and mighty man at his time did. He had an arranged marriage with a child bride. Christian, muslim or jew. Everyone did it at the time. Speaking of better or worse.

It's just the idiot's argument blocking out historical realities.

None of those other rich and mighty are claimed to be morally perfect. That's the important distinction there.

[Regina]

Yeah, Islam is the worst. I mean it literally says that the perfect example of a man is a child-fucking slaver from the 6th century. I think many many people discount how important Muhammad is to Islam.

you display the typical "kiddo crusader" mantality of the "sons of the church", it doesn't matter if you claim you're an atheist, probably you were raised and brought up in a zionist, crusading society that forgets that the biggest child fuckers on earth are the Christian monks in Italy, and that pedophilia -especially gay, balls-sucking kind of pedophilia- is Catholic based, there under the pope's throne.

Let's be honest. Muslims don't put naked kids inside holly water now, don't they ?

No..you're just wrong. The biggest child fuckers on this globe are christians.

I know I know..it's sweet to throw rocks on peoples' houses when yours is made out of glass.
I mean it's just so ironic, that the Christian countries (like Russia and America) are well known to produce kiddo porn that middle eastern Muslim kiddo fuckers use daily.

The difference?

The Christian/Catholic Church is (rightly) dragged across the entire Western world for that shit. There is open criticism of the Church for their child abuse and a demand for them to be held accountabile, and there is satire and jokes everywhere about pervy priests. Nobody is excusing Christian pedophilia.

Pointing out that Muhammad was a pedophile can get you bullied into silence at best, or even killed in some parts of the world. Nobody looks at Christian priests like they're supposed to be a representation of "the ideal man" who every man should emulate themselves on, which is what men across the world do with Muhammad. Quasi-Feminists can sit there and call Muhammad "a champion of womens' rights" because child marriage (provided it's being done by "an oppressed minority religion") has respectability status under multiculturalism and cultural relativism.

[Mister Agenda]

Read the biographies of Mo, Jesus and the Buddha, to a 5-year-old, and even they can see that one of these was an infinitely more violent role model than the others. Yes, all religions are stupid, but it's just as stupid to believe they're all as equally violent.

As Sam Harris says: religion is a nearly useless term; it's a term like "sports"; now there are sports like badminton, and there are sports like Thai Boxing; and they have almost nothing in common, apart from breathing.

Yeah, Islam is the worst. I mean it literally says that the perfect example of a man is a child-fucking slaver from the 6th century. I think many many people discount how important Muhammad is to Islam.

Whether you believe Mohammed was a child-fucker depends largely on if you follow Shia or a Sunni hadiths. I presume you find the Sunni hadiths to be more credible.

[Mister Agenda]

Muhammad di what every rich and mighty man at his time did. He had an arranged marriage with a child bride. Christian, muslim or jew. Everyone did it at the time. Speaking of better or worse.

It's just the idiot's argument blocking out historical realities.

We don't claim moral perfection for any of those other people. That's the important part. If Christians and Jews were claiming that a pedophile and slaver was morally perfect, I'd have the same problem with them.

Where do you draw the pedophile line? Mary would likely have been about 14 when God is supposed to have knocked her up.

[abaris]

And from the top of my head, Solomon isn't exactly in the imperfect region either. True, the bible doesn't speak of the age of his wives - plural, if anyone doesn't get it at first glance - but it's a pretty good guess that they weren't all of legal age by todays standards.

Oh, and a second one. According to the narrative, someone closely associated with Jesus.

King David is widely viewed as a righteous and effective king in battle and civil and criminal justice.

Adulterer, genocidal maniac and by all accounts also holding a harem.