Banned from ChristianForums

[dyresand]

Continuing from a previous thread.

I get banned from CF quite often. I only post in the General Theology/Soteriology thread as there are some seriously deluded people there. One guy, going by the name of Nobdysfool has been known to get so bent out of shape he tracks people who disagree with him. E.g Fether.net 'hamsters wheel' or Biblocality run by Troy Brooks.

One thread is amazing. 'Calvinism Explained'. Over 2000 posts and still NOTHING is explained - which is why I sometimes drop in there to gee things up a little.

Calvinism, if anyone does not know, is the most offensive, bigoted, elitest clap trap you will eve come across.

What beats me is Nobysfool's blog on CF - nothing short of a perverted sexual deviancy. IMO it is worth joining CF just to ask about this blog, I mean - the hypocrisy is unbelievable.

Anyone else familiar with this web site ?

Oh i do know they are the most deluded bunch of people i have ever ran across on the internet...

[bleitzel]

Continuing from a previous thread.

I get banned from CF quite often. I only post in the General Theology/Soteriology thread as there are some seriously deluded people there. One guy, going by the name of Nobdysfool has been known to get so bent out of shape he tracks people who disagree with him. E.g Fether.net 'hamsters wheel' or Biblocality run by Troy Brooks.

One thread is amazing. 'Calvinism Explained'. Over 2000 posts and still NOTHING is explained - which is why I sometimes drop in there to gee things up a little.

Calvinism, if anyone does not know, is the most offensive, bigoted, elitest clap trap you will eve come across.

What beats me is Nobysfool's blog on CF - nothing short of a perverted sexual deviancy. IMO it is worth joining CF just to ask about this blog, I mean - the hypocrisy is unbelievable.

Anyone else familiar with this web site ?

It's not too bad of a site, as sites go. They have a section that's open to non-christians, but then there are some sections reserved for purely intramural debate, where they're not looking for non-Christians to argue those specific topics. It doesn't mean you can't have the same exact debate on the atheist-allowed side, it's just they want to keep the threads on track in some areas of the forums. So, if you're an avowed atheist posting in one of the Christian-only forums they'll ask you not to post there and could eventually ban you altogether. Seems reasonable enough.

[Alex K]

Welcome to the forums, bleitzel.

[bleitzel]

Calvinism, if anyone does not know, is the most offensive, bigoted, elitest clap trap you will eve come across.

As creepy as it is, it's probably the most intellectually honest version of Christianity I've seen. They've learned to let go of stuff like free will and humans having a choice if they go to heaven or hell in lieu of keeping a truly omniscient deity. Sure, their god looks like Cthulhu with a beard, but at least it's accurate to the source material.

Anyone else familiar with this web site ?

No. I got soft-banned from worthychristianforums and decided I didn't like Christian forums.

@ RobbyPants: Calvinism is pretty tough. I don't think it's fair to say it's the most intellectually honest version of Christianity. It's more akin to Islam. The God of the Bible acts within time, reacts to humanity. He seems to be taken by surprise sometimes and other times changes his mind. I know may Christians would gasp at this, but not every Christina in the world is a Rhodes Scholar (or even reads the Bible).

I would agree that the Christian God has the characteristics of omnipresence, omnipotence, and omniscience. But look at the normal definitions of those 3: Being all places at all times, the ability to do anything he wishes, and the knowledge of all things.

I'll start with omnipotence. Omnipotence does not mean the doer of all things, it means the ability to do anything he wishes (within the limits of ration meaning he can't create a rock heavy enough for him not to be able to lift, that's just a logic problem not a physical limitation). Omnipotence means God can create a world or not, it's up to him.

Likewise, omnipresence means the ability to be all places or none, to a greater or lesser degree. We don't suppose God is here in our Earth to the same degree he is in Heaven. His glory isn't fully displayed here as it is in Heaven. Likewise, it may be entirely void in Hell.

So why then do we say his omniscience must mean he knows all things? I think it's just because we didn't think big enough. If God's omnipotence means he can do anything he wants to do, then why must he know everything? Why can he not choose not to know some things? For consistency, shouldn't the Christina God's omniscience be defined as the ability to anything he chooses to know?

Sorry to go off on a tangent, but the Muslims believe Allah does all things and is in full control. Calvinism is closer to that theology than the Christianity of the Bible in that regard. Now, in regards to the source material, if there's any specific material you'd like to discuss?

[Minimalist]

I think the point is that Christian forums often have a rule against questioning their belief at all, and doing so is a bannable offense.

Exactly.

Ever meet a jesus freak who wasn't a prissy little shit?

[Incognito]

Exactly.

Ever meet a jesus freak who wasn't a prissy little shit?

You can't convince a believer with logic, since they have already decided to believe in a magical man in the sky with no proof

[Losty]

You can absolutely question other people's beliefs. I spent the first 5 years of my on line work doing that very thing. To the point where people have dropped their old beliefs and went in a new direction. They have no issue with this. They just want things done respectfully, and done with a modicum of tolerance for those who hold the beliefs you question.

What most 'atheist' on 'Christian forums' didn't/don't get is their base line arguments defile the integrity of the believer in some way. Meaning the general charge is one of ignorance/in ablity to reason or they default to some sort of fallacy.

If you can not approach someone and openly discuss their faith without tracing out a base line argument that calls them an idiot then the fault is yours.

Now granted here you can call someone an idiot, but again you truly are one if you can have a civil conversation in this format.

The only Christian forum I ever joined was right at the same time I joined tta. I posted almost the exact same intro thread about how I wasn't a Christian anymore but I still believed in God. I was banned for being an atheist which was apparently against the rules.

[Minimalist]

They piss their pants at the thought of you, Losty.

Our very existence terrifies them since we demonstrate that their fucking 'god' is not necessary to life!

[Expired]

Continuing from a previous thread.

I get banned from CF quite often. I only post in the General Theology/Soteriology thread as there are some seriously deluded people there. One guy, going by the name of Nobdysfool has been known to get so bent out of shape he tracks people who disagree with him. E.g Fether.net 'hamsters wheel' or Biblocality run by Troy Brooks.

One thread is amazing. 'Calvinism Explained'. Over 2000 posts and still NOTHING is explained - which is why I sometimes drop in there to gee things up a little.

Calvinism, if anyone does not know, is the most offensive, bigoted, elitest clap trap you will eve come across.

What beats me is Nobysfool's blog on CF - nothing short of a perverted sexual deviancy. IMO it is worth joining CF just to ask about this blog, I mean - the hypocrisy is unbelievable.

Anyone else familiar with this web site ?

It's not too bad of a site, as sites go. They have a section that's open to non-christians, but then there are some sections reserved for purely intramural debate, where they're not looking for non-Christians to argue those specific topics. It doesn't mean you can't have the same exact debate on the atheist-allowed side, it's just they want to keep the threads on track in some areas of the forums. So, if you're an avowed atheist posting in one of the Christian-only forums they'll ask you not to post there and could eventually ban you altogether. Seems reasonable enough.

Is it reasonable enough to ban someone for not giving the word god a capital g.

[Losty]

They piss their pants at the thought of you, Losty.

Our very existence terrifies them since we demonstrate that their fucking 'god' is not necessary to life!

I feel like I'm fairly non-threatening. I was looking for answers, asking for help. I wasn't there to challenge anyone.