Nudity, Is It Sexist In This Forum?

[Edwardo Piet]

I mean, c'mon, the kittencorn has spoken.

[Silver]

Drop it like it's hot?

[Losty]

If we applied the rules based on what each poster thinks is okay, we'd never be able to take any action.

We have to do what we feel is best for everyone.

And what is best for the forum. What good would we all be huddling not-actually-together if there was no forum for us to huddle not-actually-together in. It would just be us...wishing we still had a forum. Wishing we hadn't done that thing we did that pissed off the host.

[SteelCurtain]

You posted pictures of naked children to make a point? And you're surprised at action being taken against you?

You put us in an extremely difficult situation by doing so. . .

Not really.  Nudity, in any form and at any age, is not intrinsically illegal, nor is it immoral.  The difficulty is one that you guys have decided to make up.

No, you did, benny. Listen, I understand and appreciate your point, but you specifically went out of your way to prove a point using something that you know would be provocative and against the rules. Server costs are one thing, but hosting is entirely another. Hosts have rules and liability, and if your host decides that you have violated their terms of use, it's not about cost at that point. It's about finding a new host. You were around when we switched hosts last year. The site was down for 3 days, we had endless problems porting over data/modules, kudos took like a month to come back.

Our rules protect the site from losing its hosting.

I wasn't surprised that I got banned, I mean not really.  But that's not because I felt I was doing something wrong.  It's because I know there are many people in the world who are less natural-minded and liberal than I am-- I really have to see that a behavior is likely to cause real harm in order for me to demand people not engage in it.  In individual cases, like this one, I'm surprised to discover exactly what bugaboo it is that is eating at people's brains.  However, overall, I'm really never surprised to discover that people fixate on issues I consider pointless or even harmful.

I should point out that I don't debate that mods have the right to make or enforce rules, WHATEVER their nature.  It's not my site, and my membership is implicitly contingent on following those rules, whether I agree with them or not.  You could have a law against being named "bennyboy," and I sometimes think you do.  But so long as I'm considered part of this community then I will use my voice to add weight to those ideas I see sensible, and against those which I see as corrupt.  This is the only democracy to which I have access.

And in this thread, I really want to say only this:
1)  Nudity is healthy, natural, and I think it should never be sexualized.
2)  I would tend to favor expression over limitation of expression.  Whether or not I want to see breasts (or a penis, for that matter), if it was important to someone else that they be allowed to express themselves, I'd be in favor of it.  So I support the OP, and not those who were against her view, or who called her "troll," or otherwised expressed themselves negatively toward her.
3)  Being banned sucks, and it didn't need to happen to me.

We would never hold your dissent against you, at least I wouldn't. I would hope every member would be comfortable with pointing out inconsistency within the rules, or something that makes little or no sense.

Likely, we'll discuss it and either make a change or not. As for your list:

1) I agree. But this is not the ideal world. Female breasts are considered more sexual than male breasts by the majority of the population. Our rule allows for art (and always has): "The staff will make the final decision on whether content is pornographic or not, and will take into consideration whether the content is more artistic than pornographic (e.g. depictions of Venus de Milo or Michelangelo's David are not in violation of this rule)."

2) The OP was not called a troll until she insisted that the staff was sexist and then accused us of putting you up to posting the pictures of kids in order to shut her thread down. She said you were going on a vacation anyways, and since we locked the thread for like an hour, you were the patsy in our grand design to kill the conversation, because we were so sexist we couldn't even talk about it. So that's why she was treated like an idiot. She was so intent on being the victim that she had to make it so, no matter what.

3) It does suck. It sucked to do it. In the future, please make your points with the words you can type, not with pictures of other people's naked children.

[Silver]

And what is best for the forum.

Indeed. A forum that self destructs only drags its members down with it.

[Losty]

Yeah, I'm holding the elephants trunk.  I think you've got him by the balls.

Nah, my bum couldn't handle his load.

Jesus Christ on a Popsicle stick

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[robvalue]

I never thought I would ever say this in a million years, me of all people but...

Can we just drop it now?

Seconded.

[Edwardo Piet]

I think the day I want to drop a subject is the day a conversation needs to fucking die.

I hate dropping subjects.

[Silver]

Conversations die all the time.

[Joods]

I never thought I would ever say this in a million years, me of all people but...

Can we just drop it now?

Seconded.

Gee, I've said that more than once now.