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So where's Pete?
I'm here like a little chihuahua barking ferociously at this topic. I like it. I might chill here.
"Hipster is what happens when young hot people do what old ladies do." -Exian
 (July 26, 2016 at 9:42 pm)PETE_ROSE Wrote: Hope everyone is having a wonderful summer! Thank you to everyone in the forum for your insightful contributions, I am always challenged intellectually with much of what I read here. I have a quick question for my non theist compadres: I'm gonna take a different slant. Maybe I need you to define "acceptable truth". I do find that there are "acceptable truth"s in the bible. Examples, don't lie, don't kill, don't steal, be excellent to each other (sorry-Bill and Ted).................. But these are truths "revealed" (more accurately is "written about") by man, not a god. All gods are a fantasy created by man. The bible is the fantasy story written by man about a particular god. I not going to worship a fantasy. I find acceptable truths in the Silmarillion but I'm not going to worship Eru Ilúvatar.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
What's in it for me? I like myself. a lot. I'm always looking out for my own best interest.
As a kid, I always thought hell was supposed to be the most painful, smelliest, nauseating and otherwise uncomfy experience. I'm one who is a wimp around smakes, bees, jellies, and excrement. And I hate food poisoning. If hell was all of that, I'd be moving to Texas and personally attending services at Joel O'Steen's church. But in adulthood, I have heard all different ideas of what hell is. Sometimes just a displacement from God that I apparently wouldn't even notice. Sounds A-OK to me! Yes, God and his son Jesus are jerks. I'm happy to know they don't exist.
"For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan
Fraid not bud. Existence isn't really the issue. Plenty of things exist that I don't worship, your god would just be another one of those things.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
If god was real I would worship him.
No sense in being on the losing team. It'd take a lot to convince me though. Something like a special set of gloves, a special hammer and a list of all the people who are demons and not even real people after all. I feel quite sure that if god was real he'd want me to do his special jobs.  RE: Question?
July 26, 2016 at 11:11 pm
(This post was last modified: July 26, 2016 at 11:19 pm by Losty.)
No amount of certainty would ever make me worship a God of the Christian bible. It would be pointless for me to pretend I didn't find him repulsive because he would know I was lying.
I'm still here! Got a little busy at work tonight. Cannot help but notice some are getting hung up dissecting my question about what is truth and such. I attempted to remove all ambiguity and pose the question flatly. I often see reasoning to the effect that many dismiss Christianity due to lack of evidence. I'm questioning who would follow and worship Christ if they knew Christianity and what it purports to be true.
(July 26, 2016 at 11:17 pm)PETE_ROSE Wrote: I'm still here! Got a little busy at work tonight. Cannot help but notice some are getting hung up dissecting my question about what is truth and such. I attempted to remove all ambiguity and pose the question flatly. I often see reasoning to the effect that many dismiss Christianity due to lack of evidence. I'm questioning who would follow and worship Christ if they knew Christianity and what it purports to be true. Someone who has never read the bible in its entirety and/or is morally lacking I presume
This ^^^
"Hipster is what happens when young hot people do what old ladies do." -Exian
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