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Jill Stein Insanity
July 30, 2016 at 1:57 pm
She's a Vaccine Skeptic
Quote:As Green Party presidential candidate and physician Jill Stein rallied outside the Democratic National Convention last week to win over "Bernie or Bust" supporters, she revealed to the Washington Post that she understands why voters distrust vaccines due to government oversight.
Questions about Stein's vaccine skepticism followed after she initially criticized the mandatory vaccine policy in a Reddit AMA in May. Stein told the Post in an interview published Friday that she isn't sure if all "real questions" among physicians about health concerns with vaccines have been addressed.
Vote for her and not only do you make a Trump Presidency more likely, you endorse a science denier. As if the Republican idiocy isn't enough.
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RE: Jill Stein Insanity
July 30, 2016 at 2:01 pm
I'm not a fan.
I get her skepticism of the FDA and its processes.
To extrapolate that to proven medicine, as a doctor, is worrisome.
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RE: Jill Stein Insanity
July 30, 2016 at 2:28 pm
So the choices we have are: she's either deeply, troublingly unaware of easily researched medical science... while also being a doctor.
Or she's willing to throw away her principles in order to court the anti-vaxx, science denialist vote, in which case she's attempting to parasitize Trump's voting bloc as well as Bernie's.
Neither of those make for a good candidate.
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RE: Jill Stein Insanity
July 30, 2016 at 2:31 pm
She's the modern-day Harold Stassen: A perennial candidate. As Barney Frank noted on Real Time last night, between elections she goes away and does nothing to advance progressive causes.
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RE: Jill Stein Insanity
July 30, 2016 at 3:25 pm
She doesn't sound like much of a "vote your conscience" candidate to me.
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RE: Jill Stein Insanity
July 30, 2016 at 3:37 pm
I read her entire reddit chat, and she actually said she thinks vaccine rates are too low, and that she personally believes vaccines are important.
I think this is a strange rumor from taking a few bits of her chat out of context. She is not skeptical of vaccines, though she is skeptical of big pharmacy motives in some things.
You should read the whole chat and make up your own mind about what she said, instead of reading articles with sensational headlines that include only a few snippets.
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RE: Jill Stein Insanity
July 30, 2016 at 3:52 pm
(July 30, 2016 at 3:37 pm)Aroura Wrote: I read her entire reddit chat, and she actually said she thinks vaccine rates are too low, and that she personally believes vaccines are important.
I think this is a strange rumor from taking a few bits of her chat out of context. She is not skeptical of vaccines, though she is skeptical of big pharmacy motives in some things.
You should read the whole chat and make up your own mind about what she said, instead of reading articles with sensational headlines that include only a few snippets.
I don't know what I would find more less surprising - that people post shit without vetting their sources, or that a politician was taken out of context.
In this case, it's probably the former. I'm surprised someone would bother to go to the trouble for a candidate who might get 3% of the vote.
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RE: Jill Stein Insanity
July 30, 2016 at 4:15 pm
(July 30, 2016 at 3:37 pm)Aroura Wrote: I read her entire reddit chat, and she actually said she thinks vaccine rates are too low, and that she personally believes vaccines are important.
I think this is a strange rumor from taking a few bits of her chat out of context. She is not skeptical of vaccines, though she is skeptical of big pharmacy motives in some things.
You should read the whole chat and make up your own mind about what she said, instead of reading articles with sensational headlines that include only a few snippets.
I'm aware, though the overall language she tends to use is problematic enough that Stein's not in the clear either. For example, she uses the oft-debunked argument about the toxicity of vaccines despite the lack of truth to it, makes vague assertions about Monsanto running the show, and foments distrust of the regulatory agencies involved based on the circular premise that people distrust those agencies, therefore that distrust is both worth looking into, and founded. When a person can sit there and act concerned about corporate interests driving vaccine regulations, despite the fact that the majority of members on that advisory board work in academia or medical research and not drug companies, it doesn't matter that there are worse positions she could be taking.
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RE: Jill Stein Insanity
July 30, 2016 at 4:20 pm
Her comment: https://m.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/4ix...or/d31ydoe
It seems most of the backlash is aimed at her conspiracy talk.
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RE: Jill Stein Insanity
July 30, 2016 at 4:26 pm
Vote Trump.
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