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Interesting snippet on Tx resistent depression.
#11
RE: Interesting snippet on Tx resistent depression.
Quote:A big part of our emotions are probably influenced by the nerves in our gut," and "The system is way too complicated to have evolved only to make sure things move out of your colon," are to be taken as spurious conjecture and woo woo at best.

Which has what to do with diet, exactly?

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#12
RE: Interesting snippet on Tx resistent depression.
(August 27, 2016 at 9:51 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
Quote:A big part of our emotions are probably influenced by the nerves in our gut," and "The system is way too complicated to have evolved only to make sure things move out of your colon," are to be taken as spurious conjecture and woo woo at best.

Which has what to do with diet, exactly?

Boru
Absolutely nothing of course, I eat sunlight through my skin. Only barbarians put physical food it in their mouth, masticate in public and pass it through a multi chamber meat tube filled with more bacterial flora and fauna cells than there are human cells in their body. Disgusting. Tongue
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
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RE: Interesting snippet on Tx resistent depression.
(August 27, 2016 at 10:09 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:
(August 27, 2016 at 9:51 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Which has what to do with diet, exactly?

Boru
Absolutely nothing of course, I eat sunlight through my skin. Only barbarians put physical food it in their mouth, masticate in public and pass it through a multi chamber meat tube filled with more bacterial flora and fauna cells than there are human cells in their body. Disgusting.  Tongue

Thank you for your non-answer, but let's return to our muttons. You made the claim that people should treat depression through diet. Based on this, would you say to a mother who just lost her child, 'Have some kelp, you'll feel better'?

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: Interesting snippet on Tx resistent depression.
(August 27, 2016 at 9:25 pm)The_Empress Wrote: ... and you are...?

A wanker who thinks that eating yoghurt will stop me from another suicide attempt.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Interesting snippet on Tx resistent depression.
(August 27, 2016 at 10:14 pm)Stimbo Wrote:
(August 27, 2016 at 9:25 pm)The_Empress Wrote: ... and you are...?

A wanker who thinks that eating yoghurt will stop me from another suicide attempt.

Odd, because even the thought of eating yoghurt makes me want to put me head in the oven.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: Interesting snippet on Tx resistent depression.
(August 27, 2016 at 10:14 pm)Stimbo Wrote:
(August 27, 2016 at 9:25 pm)The_Empress Wrote: ... and you are...?

A wanker who thinks that eating yoghurt will stop me from another suicide attempt.

The doctors have been doing it wrong this whole time! Probiotics are all it takes! Hallelujah! I'm cured!
Nolite te bastardes carborundorum.
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RE: Interesting snippet on Tx resistent depression.
(August 27, 2016 at 10:11 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(August 27, 2016 at 10:09 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: Absolutely nothing of course, I eat sunlight through my skin. Only barbarians put physical food it in their mouth, masticate in public and pass it through a multi chamber meat tube filled with more bacterial flora and fauna cells than there are human cells in their body. Disgusting.  Tongue

Thank you for your non-answer, but let's return to our muttons.  You made the claim that people should treat depression through diet.  Based on this, would you say to a mother who just lost her child, 'Have some kelp, you'll feel better'?

Boru

I was talking about chronic depression with no acute cause/onset that does not respond to drugs.

You are talking about an entirely different matter.

In that case I would feed her my knowledge of the afterlife. My questioning has been satiated and hunger satisfied through not only what I have experienced via NDE but worked out rationally through logic and supported by evidence. I would offer selections from the buffet of my faith.

Heb 11:1 "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder
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#18
RE: Interesting snippet on Tx resistent depression.
Internet Medicine: Worth every penny you've paid for it ™.

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#19
RE: Interesting snippet on Tx resistent depression.
Quote:In that case I would feed her my knowledge of the afterlife.

Had you pulled that shit on me, I would send you on a permanent fact-finding mission to to it. Fucking hearse chaser.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Interesting snippet on Tx resistent depression.
(August 27, 2016 at 9:28 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:
(August 27, 2016 at 9:11 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: No offense, but I wouldn't take medical advice from you if I were bleeding from every orifice while being simultaneously consumed by flesh-eating bacteria.

Boru
It's your funeral, fill the piñata with what ever you like! [Image: CigarWomanfiesta.jpg]

http://www.scientificamerican.com/articl...ond-brain/

"The second brain doesn't help with the great thought processes…religion, philosophy and poetry is left to the brain in the head," says Michael Gershon, chairman of the Department of Anatomy and Cell Biology at New York–Presbyterian Hospital/Columbia University Medical Center, an expert in the nascent field of neurogastroenterology and author of the 1998 book The Second Brain (HarperCollins).

Technically known as the enteric nervous system, the second brain consists of sheaths of neurons embedded in the walls of the long tube of our gut, or alimentary canal, which measures about nine meters end to end from the esophagus to the anus. The second brain contains some 100 million neurons, more than in either the spinal cord or the peripheral nervous system, Gershon says.

This multitude of neurons in the enteric nervous system enables us to "feel" the inner world of our gut and its contents. Much of this neural firepower comes to bear in the elaborate daily grind of digestion. Breaking down food, absorbing nutrients, and expelling of waste requires chemical processing, mechanical mixing and rhythmic muscle contractions that move everything on down the line.

"The system is way too complicated to have evolved only to make sure things move out of your colon," says Emeran Mayer, professor of physiology, psychiatry and biobehavioral sciences at the David Geffen School of Medicine at the University of California, Los Angeles (U.C.L.A.). For example, scientists were shocked to learn that about 90 percent of the fibers in the primary visceral nerve, the vagus, carry information from the gut to the brain and not the other way around. "Some of that info is decidedly unpleasant," Gershon says.

The second brain informs our state of mind in other more obscure ways, as well. "A big part of our emotions are probably influenced by the nerves in our gut," Mayer
says. Butterflies in the stomach—signaling in the gut as part of our physiological stress response, Gershon says—is but one example. Although gastrointestinal (GI) turmoil can sour one's moods, everyday emotional well-being may rely on messages from the brain below to the brain above. For example, electrical stimulation of the vagus nerve—a useful treatment for depression—may mimic these signals, Gershon says.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6204761

Cell Biophys. 1984 Mar;6(1):33-52.
Biophoton emission. New evidence for coherence and DNA as source.
Popp FA, Nagl W, Li KH, Scholz W, Weingärtner O, Wolf R.
Abstract
The phenomenon of ultraweak photon emission from living systems was further investigated in order to elucidate the physical properties of this radiation and its possible source. We obtained evidence that the light has a high degree of coherence because of (1) its photon count statistics, (2) its spectral distribution, (3) its decay behavior after exposure to light illumination, and (4) its transparency through optically thick materials. Moreover, DNA is apparently at least an important source, since conformational changes induced with ethidium bromide in vivo are clearly reflected by changes of the photon emission of cells. The physical properties of the radiation are described, taking DNA as an exciplex laser system, where a stable state can be reached far from thermal equilibrium at threshold.


And just browse through the mountains of articles on how diet treats depression.
https://www.google.com/?client=opera#saf...+with+diet


So when's the party? Cheers!  [Image: boy-pinata-1.gif]

(August 27, 2016 at 9:25 pm)The_Empress Wrote: ... and you are...?
Informed.


I don't listen to author's who aren't peer reviewed, are freelance, don't provide citations, post on trade publications and don't have a link to the study in which they gained their information form.
The book he references is from 1998. The author is a gastroenterologist. not neurogastroenterologist.

And if you wanna get information from the article then...

"The second brain informs our state of mind in other more obscure ways, as well. "A big part of our emotions are probably influenced by the nerves in our gut," Mayer says. Butterflies in the stomach—signaling in the gut as part of our physiological stress response, Gershon says—is but one example. Although gastrointestinal (GI) turmoil can sour one's moods, everyday emotional well-being may rely on messages from the brain below to the brain above. For example, electrical stimulation of the vagus nerve—a useful treatment for depression—may mimic these signals, Gershon says."

Anddddd... Radiation???

Abstract

"Radiation and its possible source. We obtained evidence that the light has a high degree of coherence because of (1) its photon count statistics, (2) its spectral distribution, (3) its decay behavior after exposure to light illumination, and (4) its transparency through optically thick materials. Moreover, DNA is apparently at least an important source, since conformational changes induced with ethidium bromide in vivo are clearly reflected by changes of the photon emission of cells. The physical properties of the radiation are described, taking DNA as an exciplex laser system, where a stable state can be reached far from thermal equilibrium at threshold."


The abstract one may be right but wtf does it have to do with the topic???

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