This Piece of Orange Shit Belongs In Jail

[Minimalist]

[The Grand Nudger]

@Tazzy.  Not, entirely, accurate.  The price at the produce aisle is already hiked.  We pay the max of what we -will- pay whether they get the subsidies or not.  The market wont pay more for a banana, it;s already being leveraged for as much as it will bare.    Subsidies drying up wont compel people to pay more, for a banana.  That's not to say that producers and retailers wouldn't -try-, but they're always trying to get us to pay more for whatever it is they're peddling, once they know we will pay some x...no amount of cut costs or subsidies from the gov will ever be transferred to the consumer, they know we'll pay x..they pocket -whatever- the difference between cost and x is. Business as usual.

In Europe anyway, the price paid at the shops is generally below the cost of production, and the price paid to farmers is well below the price paid in shops. Subsidies were brought in to ensure that small farmers would be able to survive in such a market.

Ah, gotcha.  Funny thing, our subsidies were origially enacted to help small farmers and the poor, but there's no such thing..in truth, as a small farmer today, nor would they qualify for subsidies if there were....as to whether or not the poor get a taste..lulz.

(I run a small farm, but it's more accurate to say that I'm in the agro-tourism business - couldn't plug into subsidies -or- the dominant model market and still turn a profit.  Any money I make comes from sidestepping the whole thing.)

[Pat Mustard]

[Pat Mustard]

In Europe anyway, the price paid at the shops is generally below the cost of production, and the price paid to farmers is well below the price paid in shops. Subsidies were brought in to ensure that small farmers would be able to survive in such a market.

Ah, gotcha.  Funny thing, our subsidies were origially enacted to help small farmers and the poor, but there's no such thing..in truth, as a small farmer today, nor would they qualify for subsidies if there were....as to whether or not the poor get a taste..lulz.

(I run a small farm, but it's more accurate to say that I'm in the agro-tourism business - couldn't plug into subsidies -or- the dominant model market and still turn a profit.  Any money I make comes from sidestepping the whole thing.)

EU subsidies work in countries with a tradition of small farmers. They don't work in the UK however, where the landed gentry own most of the land and have hoovered up most of the subsidies as a result (either through huge rents on their tenants who actually farm, or keeping loads of land permanently fallow).

[Minimalist]

[The Grand Nudger]

From that link

“My goal is to create 30,000 jobs in Ethiopia by 2020, with exports reaching $1 billion to $1.5 billion,” he said.

-hehehe, look, they even talk like us.   Sounds better than:

"My goal is to exploit labor and governments which will accept conditions inferior to that which I previously enjoyed, in china...to the tune of billions"

[Minimalist]