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A quick word on "Overwhelmingly Negative Influences"
RE: A quick word on "Overwhelmingly Negative Influences"
(November 7, 2016 at 9:55 pm)Minimalist Wrote: She's pissed at me because the world is overcrowded and I think abortions are a reasonable part of the solution.... especially when the fetus' own mother doesn't want it.

I'll live with it.  The planet is far more important than some church shithead rattling on about how many kids jesus wants everyone to have.

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I agree with that.  Smile
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RE: A quick word on "Overwhelmingly Negative Influences"
(November 7, 2016 at 9:06 pm)MrsTRich Wrote:
(November 7, 2016 at 7:54 pm)Emjay Wrote: And are you just as big on this ASK business as he is?

I am still in the process of ASKing

Well, Drich knows what I think about that; that "ASK and you shall receive" would be better stated as "ASK and you shall perceive". I'm sure you'll find what you seek through ASKing, just as he has - I have no doubt about that part - but where he attributes it to God, I attribute it to the power of the mind to see what it wants or expects to see. We'll never change each other's minds on that and I accept that... just two fundamentally different views of the world and never the twain shall meet, but to each their own Smile
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RE: A quick word on "Overwhelmingly Negative Influences"
(November 7, 2016 at 9:55 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
(November 7, 2016 at 9:27 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: What exactly has Min said on here that is so awful?

She's pissed at me because the world is overcrowded and I think abortions are a reasonable part of the solution.... especially when the fetus' own mother doesn't want it.

I'll live with it.  The planet is far more important than some church shithead rattling on about how many kids jesus wants everyone to have.

I'm not pissed at you at all. 

I said that you have the persona of being the grumpy ol man around here and you say some pretty mean things, but that we all know you're a decent person irl. That was supposed to be a positive comment about you, not a mean one.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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RE: A quick word on "Overwhelmingly Negative Influences"
(November 7, 2016 at 9:27 pm)Bella Morte Wrote:
(November 7, 2016 at 2:16 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: It's like with Min.

He says some awful things on here fairly often. But we all know that's just Min's online persona as the grumpy ol' man, and we know he's a decent person irl.

What exactly has Min said on here that is so awful?

Recently he said abortions should be done more often.

But I wasn't referring to any one specific thing. Just his general grumpy/condescending/bigoted tone and generalizations in regards to people of faith and conservatives. And don't get me wrong, I like Min. When I first joined his comments seemed really awful to me, but I PMed him at one point and realized he's actually a pretty cool dude. I've come to terms with that just being his online persona, and was trying to make the same point about Drich. People can come off a certain way online while still being perfectly decent ppl irl.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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RE: A quick word on "Overwhelmingly Negative Influences"
(November 8, 2016 at 12:45 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Recently he said abortions should be done more often.

I'd agree with that.

There are many, many, many people who simply refuse to ever have an abortion because they think they're 100% wrong... even if the child has a defect that will cause it to be unable to live outside its mother's womb or even if having the baby will kill the mother. That's messed up. Those mothers need to have abortions.
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RE: A quick word on "Overwhelmingly Negative Influences"
(November 8, 2016 at 12:45 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Recently he said abortions should be done more often.

There is nothing wrong with abortions.
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RE: A quick word on "Overwhelmingly Negative Influences"
Quote:Recently he said abortions should be done more often.

And I shall repeat it.  It is none of your business what someone else does with her life.

And that goes double for your goddamned church and those perverts who run it.
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RE: A quick word on "Overwhelmingly Negative Influences"
BTW, that is not just aimed at you.  That is aimed at all busy bodies, especially fascist politicians, who think that forcing women to have unwanted children is a good way to punish them for fucking.
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RE: A quick word on "Overwhelmingly Negative Influences"
Of course there's something wrong with abortions.
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RE: A quick word on "Overwhelmingly Negative Influences"
(November 7, 2016 at 9:04 pm)MrsTRich Wrote:
(November 7, 2016 at 7:28 pm)Whateverist Wrote: I'd really like to ask MrsRich some questions about her own religious experience.  I have no idea if she is actually using her account of if Drich is doing the answering.  But if it is the missus, I'd be curious to know:

1)  Is religion/church as important to you as it is the hubby?  

2)  Drich describes converting from atheism as an adult.  Did you make such a conversion or have you always been a believer?

3)  Are you also big on proselytizing in RL, and are you both members of the same church?

1. Religion/church is probably more important to me than it is to Drich. By that, I mean that the actual politics of church and religion mean way more to me than it probably should but Drich is just very passionate with what the Bible reads and his relationship with God.  He hardly goes to church with me anymore and he has the same kind of debates with the christians at church as he does with you all. He does his own studies and I believe at this time, he feels his time is better suited talking to y'all on here.
PS.. I tried to keep my Southern-ness in check but I can no longer contain it. You will hear more "y'alls" and fixin' to's".  

2.  I was born and raised in the church.  My family went to church 3 times a week no matter what.  I started gradually going less when I was 16 and quit going all together by the time I was 18 or 19.  I'm not sure what all Drich has shared about me but I had quite a long period of debauchery, like big time.  I was a believer throughout all of this, I just either didn't care or figured I'd straighten up later and hopefully be forgiven.  I went back to church around 25 or 26 and met Drich. It still took me a while to stop the debauchery and I'm still, to this day, working on a true understanding of the Bible and my relationship with God.  I think sometimes it is better the way Drich came to his understanding of God, on his own doing his own studies of the Bible and applying that to his life and his experiences.  I grew up being taught what I was taught in church. Now I question some of that and have to take the good from that and the good from what Drich says and forget the questionable things from the church and the questionable things of what Drich says and figure things out on my own.  I do still go to church every Sunday (but not 3 times a week)

3.  I do not proselytize at all because I don't feel like I am a good example and am still trying to find my own way.  I would certainly help anyone in anyway that I can but I just don't initiate conversations like that (also in part because I'm pretty shy and timid). Instead I would rather work in our pantry feeding homeless people.

We met in the church I grew up in and still attend today.  We tried a few different churches in between but I just didn't feel comfortable with any of the other churches. We are both technically members of the same church but he really doesn't go anymore.

Mrs T, is that you in the avatar with the wedding dress? You're beautiful.  Shy
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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