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(August 27, 2010 at 12:43 pm)theophilus Wrote: Most people believe that dinosaurs became extinct millions of years before there were any humans but there is some evidence that this belief is false.
Yes you're right, I saw a documentary once called the Flinstones. It also had a catchy themetune, and fortold the invention of the car.
"I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence"...Doug McLeod.
(August 27, 2010 at 5:10 pm)Captain Scarlet Wrote:
(August 27, 2010 at 12:43 pm)theophilus Wrote: Most people believe that dinosaurs became extinct millions of years before there were any humans but there is some evidence that this belief is false.
Yes you're right, I saw a documentary once called the Flinstones. It also had a catchy themetune, and fortold the invention of the car.
Hey, we wouldn't want Theo to be unhappy would we?
August 27, 2010 at 11:32 pm (This post was last modified: August 27, 2010 at 11:46 pm by Zen Badger.)
(August 27, 2010 at 12:43 pm)theophilus Wrote:
Quote:Most people believe that dinosaurs became extinct millions of years before there were any humans but there is some evidence that this belief is false.
Nearly all cultures have stories of dragons. The discriptions of these beasts resemble those of dinosaurs.
Quote:Evolutionist Adrienne Mayor spent considerable time researching the possibility that Native Americans dug up diniosaur fossils. But some of the reports she received make a lot more sense if these early Americans interacted with actual dinosaurs, not yet extinct. An old Assiniboine story tells of a war party that "traveled a long distance to unfamiliar lands and [saw] some large lizards. The warriors held a council and discussed what they knew about those strange creatures. They decided that those big lizards were bad medicine and should be left alone. However, one warrior who wanted more war honors said that he was not afraid of those animals and would kill one. He took his lance [a very old weapon used before horses] and charged one of the large lizard type animals and tried to kill it. But he had trouble sticking his lance in the creature's hide and during the battle he himself was killed and eaten." Mayor, Fossil Legends of the First Americans, 2005, p. 294.) This story conjures up credible visions of the scaly hide of a great reptile, something Native Americans would not know from mere skeletons. It was once thought that Woolly Mammoths had flourished in North America prior to the arrival of humans. But the discovery of sites where many mammoths were killed and butchered has established the co-existence of men and mammoths. Perhaps similar evidence involving dinosaurs will be forthcoming.
Of course it would be much less likely that they had travelled to Florida and encountered alligators,would it?
Quote:[quote]The atheistic astronomer Carl Sagan once remarked: "The pervasiveness of dragon myths in the folk legends of many cultures is probably no accident" (Sagan, Carl, The Dragons of Eden, New York: Random House, 1977, p. 149). Indeed he felt compelled to address the similarity to the great reptiles of the Jurassic era and "explain them away." How could Sagan do this? Peter Dickinson stated, "Carl Sagan tried to account for the spread and consistency of dragon legends by saying that they are fossil memories of the time of the dinosaurs, come down to us through a general mammalian memory inherited from the early mammals, our ancestors, who had to compete with the great predatory lizards." (Dickinson, Peter, The Flight of Dragons, New York: Harper and Row, 1979, p. 127). Thus Carl Sagan believed that we evolved not merely our physical bodies, but also memories "uploaded" from our mammalian ancestors!
There are also ancient pictures of animals that resemble dinosaurs. How could the people who made them have know what dinosaurs looked like unless they had actually seen them?
There are detailed pictures of all sorts of mythical creatures, do you think they existed too?
I can go on to google maps and zoom into my back yard.
Don't you think that something the size of an Aptosaurus would have been spotted from orbit by now?
Quote:If there are still dinosaurs this wouldn't be the first time a species believed to be extinct for millions of years has been found to be still alive:
True, and if and when a live dinosaur is produced such as an aptosaurous or T-rex it will be sensational.
But, like the discovery of the Coelancanth it will not disprove Evolution.
Or provide proof for Creationism.
Although not actually relevent to this discussion, this sentence;
Quote:He took his lance [a very old weapon used before horses]
I'm always amazed that these people ignore the human imagination when they, themselves, have conjured up an all-knowing, all-seeing, all-powerful creator of the universe without ever seeing one.
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
"Only those with the freshest, most succulent livers will be saved..." -Raptor Jesus
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
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(August 28, 2010 at 3:13 am)TheDarkestOfAngels Wrote: Oh, come on everyone. You all know you'd want to be going to church if Raptor Jesus was your savior: