Why was Michael Jackson stigmatised so harshly?

[Shell B]

As for his ever-changing face, Michael said that he was starting to look more like his father as he grew up and it horrified him, because apparently, his dad was not a nice person.  So he did everything he could to change the way his face looked.

Yeah he had a really rough and unusual upbringing and life in general. He basically didn't have a childhood and his father was abusive. He was in the public eye since he was 5. 

That's why I cast 0 judgement on his weirdness and feel defensive when ppl make fun of him. We have no idea what it's like to be someone unless we've walked in their shoes.

Yeah, that's a fine defense for his appearance. Not so much for the pedophilia.

[Catholic_Lady]

Yeah he had a really rough and unusual upbringing and life in general. He basically didn't have a childhood and his father was abusive. He was in the public eye since he was 5. 

That's why I cast 0 judgement on his weirdness and feel defensive when ppl make fun of him. We have no idea what it's like to be someone unless we've walked in their shoes.

Yeah, that's a fine defense for his appearance. Not so much for the pedophilia.

I agree. I was referring to his weirdness in general not to the pedophilia. As I said, I have my doubts about him being guilty of it.

[Losty]

I don't even know what that means...

He's taking the piss.  

Sure...I still have no clue what it means at all.

[paulpablo]

Look as a a black person it's looks super suspicious when just happen to have vitiligo, the you just happen to have a Eurocentric nose job, and just happen to straighten your hair? And he just happed to have all white kids? This doesn't smack of self-hate to you?

As for the kids thing, I think he was a damn obvious kid diddler. People just liked his music and decided the kids were lying so they wouldn't have to face facts.

I think there's all sorts of theories you could talk about when you're looking at Micheal Jackson's appearance.

First of all I was very skeptical about this vitiligo thing, but I watched videos of it on youtube that convinced me he just was a guy with vitiligo, then I just realized I didn't really care enought to continue speculating about it.

I think a lot of people pick different looks that cross racial bounderies and emulate that look, if that makes any sense. Lots of white people burn themselves to look dark risking skin cancer and painful sunburn.  People get afros or dreadlocks.  I'm not necesserily disagreeing with the direction you're going in by saying it could be self hate, but I wouldn't go as far to say that it was self hate.  At least not of his own race, he might just not want to look like his dad.  Plus he was rich and could afford to get surgery at a whim, and could afford to buy friends who just agree with him all the time about everything.  He probably didn't go around with the kind of friends who would say "Don't do that Micheal you're going to look like a proper twat".  These are just my thoughts anyway, just that you don't know what was going around in that guys head.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

The issue of stigmatization aside, for people saying they're unsure of whether he was a child molester, you should read the list of items the police found at his house:

http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2016/06/...l-jackson/

I used to think he was innocent, then that list comes out, and now I'm convinced he probably did molest some children. Its hard to justify (IMO) that list of items with the fact he regularly had young children over to sleep, and the fact that there were a number of allegations during his life.

How disgusting.

[Catholic_Lady]

The issue of stigmatization aside, for people saying they're unsure of whether he was a child molester, you should read the list of items the police found at his house:

http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2016/06/...l-jackson/

I used to think he was innocent, then that list comes out, and now I'm convinced he probably did molest some children. Its hard to justify (IMO) that list of items with the fact he regularly had young children over to sleep, and the fact that there were a number of allegations during his life.

Oh gosh, I just  now saw this.... 

[Losty]

Yeah, that's a fine defense for his appearance. Not so much for the pedophilia.

I agree. I was referring to his weirdness in general not to the pedophilia. As I said, I have my doubts about him being guilty of it.

Did you click the link Tibbers posted? One of the items booked as evidence was a Disney bag with children's clothing and bloodied sheets in it.

Even while his childhood is no excuse for any sexual abuse that may have been comitted by him, I would say it's likely the cause.

I remember seeing a documentary once where people said that his dad forced made him have sex with fans after some of his shows even when he was really young.

[Catholic_Lady]

I agree. I was referring to his weirdness in general not to the pedophilia. As I said, I have my doubts about him being guilty of it.

Did you click the link Tibbers posted? One of the items booked as evidence was a Disney bag with children's clothing and bloodied sheets in it.

Even while his childhood is no excuse for any sexual abuse that may have been comitted by him, I would say it's likely the cause.

I remember seeing a documentary once where people said that his dad forced made him have sex with fans after some of his shows even when he was really young.

I just now saw that. Ugh...

[Aractus]

The issue of stigmatization aside, for people saying they're unsure of whether he was a child molester, you should read the list of items the police found at his house:

http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2016/06/...l-jackson/

I used to think he was innocent, then that list comes out, and now I'm convinced he probably did molest some children. Its hard to justify (IMO) that list of items with the fact he regularly had young children over to sleep, and the fact that there were a number of allegations during his life.

Right, let's take this a whole step further. In 1969 Denmark became the first, and only country, to legalise all forms of pornography. Companies like ColorClimax produced traditional porn, others produced child pornography - legally. Denmark realised their mistake and banned child pornography production effective 1/1/1980. However by that time it is estimated that at least 10-20% of Danes (IIRC) had viewed child porn at some time in the 1970's.

You wouldn't claim that everyone who accessed the said material was a child predator would you?

The material mentioned in the link is not child pornography. It is true that it can be used to groom children, I'm not disputing that, but there's actually nothing wrong with Michael simply enjoying reading the magazines that have unclothed children in it. It's not illegal, it's not morally wrong. It's not a sexualised content. In fact, the content could just as easily be used as evidence against child molestation: where are the child abuse images that MJ would have had if he was a predator? It's hard to argue that MJ wouldn't have child abuse images if he was a predator, given that the vast majority of people who are convicted of child sex offences are found to possess child abuse images as well.

[ApeNotKillApe]

Regardless of the truth, Jackson was a choice morsel for the hyenas in many respects. The media is a ravenous fucker of mothers; if the name Jade Goody means anything to you, you understand the predator-scavenger nature in its greatest purity.