To my fellow Americans - who did you vote for?

[Whateverist]

That's an incredible sort of about face...from Bernie to Trump....gratz on the win....just sayin, lol.

When you look at special interest money, trade, and war policy, there's a lot of overlap. 

Re gratz,  I don't think this is some competition that I won.  I'm nervously waiting to see what he actually does.

And I'm looking away.  Never much liked politics anyway.  Life is short.  Go with the good stuff and fuck the rest.

[Shell B]

What about just wildly slamming the person you're talking to with having the least noble intentions imaginable.  Is that sort of thing okay here?  Are you at least going to provide an argument for your slander?  No, don't bother.  Fuck you asshole.

Was that seriously your response to Tibby? Slander? Are you out of your fucking mind? He said you were butthurt and you called that slander. I hope there was some deleted post by someone else that I missed. Otherwise, you look like an asshat freaking out over someone rightly saying you were "butthurt," which really just means you're upset, albeit not the nicest way to say it, but fuck, man. You went right off the rails there, whatevs. This is a tough situation, but geez.

[Whateverist]

What about just wildly slamming the person you're talking to with having the least noble intentions imaginable.  Is that sort of thing okay here?  Are you at least going to provide an argument for your slander?  No, don't bother.  Fuck you asshole.

Was that seriously your response to Tibby? Slander? Are you out of your fucking mind? He said you were butthurt and you called that slander. I hope there was some deleted post by someone else that I missed. Otherwise, you look like an asshat freaking out over someone rightly saying you were "butthurt," which really just means you're upset, albeit not the nicest way to say it, but fuck, man. You went right off the rails there, whatevs. This is a tough situation, but geez.

What can I say?  Some of us just have sensitive butts where hurt is concerned.  No offense intended.  Just me shaking off the butt-hurt.

[Aegon]

No. That's not the point. Going into an election voting for somebody you know won't win when your state is literally deciding the election is irrational. No realistic mobilization of Johnson voters could ever have dreamt of getting close to getting the state to go for him. Your choice is between Clinton and Trump. All Johnson voters did was frustrate the realists in those states. And when the numbers are so close that Johnson's numbers literally fill the gap between the two candidates, it's inexcusable. Ridiculous.

I voted third party. Not even, I voted for a joke third party candidate. But I live in New York. If I lived in Michigan, Ohio, Iowa, Florida, etc. you bet your ass I'd have voted for Clinton.


Michigan:

Trump - 47.6%
Clinton - 47.3%
Johnson - 3.6%

Tell yourself that all you want, friend.

Aegon, this viewpoint is completely irrational.  Swing state or not no voter should feel pressured to vote for a candidate they do not support.  You are saying if you lived in my state you would have changed your vote?  If you support Hillary in Michigan why did you not vote for her in NY?  I don't follow your logic.  You are basically saying your vote doesn't matter and silencing your own voice.  No my vote is NOT dependent on where I live.  My vote is my civic duty to place for the candidate I feel falls most in line with my views.  Whether they have a snowballs chance in hell of winning is irrelevant.

No. You're operating on a fundamental misunderstanding of our electoral system. Your vote is entirely dependent on where you live. That's the nature of the system. 

That being said, if you truly didn't care who won between Trump and Hillary, then fine. Despite the fact that they will have POLAR OPPOSITE effects on the direction of this country. Goodbye environmental sanctions, goodbye healthcare, goodbye same-sex marriage, goodbye women's right to choose. Hello commander-in-chief with no impulse control. Hello head of state with no political experience whatsoever. Hello to an incredibly uncertain future for LGBT people and Muslims. Hell, say hello to an incredibly uncertain future for all of us.

Sorry if I sound upset. I am.

[Thumpalumpacus]

This just in.  The people who didn't vote for Hillary won.  Good job.

No matter which way you paint it, the Democrats didn't offer a compelling alternative.

[Whateverist]

This just in.  The people who didn't vote for Hillary won.  Good job.

No matter which way you paint it, the Democrats didn't offer a compelling alternative.

Very true but I still don't think we got the best of those available.  Nor do I think any of those running for other parties were at all serious alternatives.  Certainly not pot-head Gary Johnson or Jill AKA make america great again by bicycling Stein.

Some times one should be grateful to find even a very bad least bad alternative.  This was such an election.

[Aegon]

Okay, I've calmed down, and I don't think Gary Johnson's voters are to blame. I still think it makes no sense to vote for a candidate you know won't win in a state that decides the election... but whatever.

I think it's Hillary's fault for being a corrupt, shit candidate. I think it's the DNC's fault for stifling democracy by rigging the primaries when people were clearly much more passionate about Sanders. I guarantee if Sanders were nominated, then the election would have been much closer. Because you'd have a Democratic candidate that would actually inspire and mobilize voters, like Trump did with Republicans.

[Whateverist]

And even if Sanders won we'd probably be right where we are now. Not sure how you put together a sufficient coalition to beat stupid.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Certainly not pot-head Gary Johnson or Jill AKA make america great again by bicycling Stein.

As noted above, I voted for Johnson. I reckon that "But duuude, I was stoned when we decided that" was a much better excuse than "I'm taking money from them, I need to listen to them" or "I had to show them not to ever fuck with the Donald!"