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More about God
#1
More about God
I list the questions first; then the answers.

---> Why should I care?

--A--> Because everything began with him, he is the first and the last; he owns it all from before, and after. 

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---> Okay.. Why is he treating me like a slave?

---A---> Because the relation between us and him, is described with the word "slave" in our languages. 
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---> That's very insulting
--A--> No. Being a slave to another human is, and to animals, and to lust.

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--->How, lol??

---A--->Humans need help; God doesn't. At least you won't feed him under the whips of somebody else. 
Slavery is only disgusting with other creatures.

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---->what did he create?

--A-->everything. Even the void itself.

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--->He shouldn't care about us? makes more sense I mean, he's too big according to your story !!!!!!!!!!!!

--A-->It depends on how we see ourselves, and if we moved from the neanderthal mentality yet.
With the existence of death; that who made us, can remakes us.

Only a God, creates creatures so little, in a universe so big.

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Just believe me. Your face, cloths, the way you speak, the money you have, the things you own, the car you drive, nothing of that defines you; only your actions do, only, that's your worth. Every action can be one of two: good or bad. That is you. Don't allow anybody to fool you into self-hating because of stupid standards, that sidetracks you from the main categories that define you.
-AtlasS
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#2
RE: More about God
Ugh. More? Must we?
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#3
RE: More about God
You're just preaching here. Please return to your regularly scheduled anti-American programming; it at least has entertainment value.
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#4
RE: More about God
*yawn*
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#5
RE: More about God
Next time could we get Berber about god?
God(s) and religions are man made and the bane of humanity. 

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#6
RE: More about God
(11th November 2016, 17:35)AtlasS33 Wrote: I list the questions first; then the answers.

---> Why should I care?

--A--> Because everything began with him, he is the first and the last; he owns it all from before, and after. 
I don't accept the notion of the ownership of human beings...because I'm not a slaver.

Quote:===========

---> Okay.. Why is he treating me like a slave?

---A---> Because the relation between us and him, is described with the word "slave" in our languages. 
=======================================
Well, I guess it sucks to be him then, doesn't it, since I'm not going to be found picking the prayer cotton fields anytime soon.  

Quote:---> That's very insulting
--A--> No. Being a slave to another human is, and to animals, and to lust.

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Meh, ofc it;s insulting..and it doesn't matter who massa is or thinks he is, nor do I care.

Quote:--->How, lol??

---A--->Humans need help; God doesn't. At least you won't feed him under the whips of somebody else. 
Slavery is only disgusting with other creatures.

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OFC I need help, all the time...I reckon I;m going to need even more ehlp than I thought if I;m the human chattel of some cosmic slave driver.   Won;t be asking the massa for that though, will I?

Quote:---->what did he create?

--A-->everything. Even the void itself.

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Mhm, I bet the massa made the fence and cleared the forest and even forged my chains.  Or, I guess, he probably had some of his slaves do that but still....

Quote:--->He shouldn't care about us? makes more sense I mean, he's too big according to your story !!!!!!!!!!!!

--A-->It depends on how we see ourselves, and if we moved from the neanderthal mentality yet.
With the existence of death; that who made us, can remakes us.

Only a God, creates creatures so little, in a universe so big.
He obviously doesn't care about me if he thinks I'll ever work on his little plantation, or that I'm ever going to till his fields for him.  He doesn't even -know- me to care about me. I'm just livestock.
 “I can’t even go to a goddamn potluck without having to thank some space fairy for the broccoli casserole!” -Trae Crowder


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#7
RE: More about God
(11th November 2016, 17:38)Cato Wrote: You're just preaching here. Please return to your regularly scheduled anti-American programming; it at least has entertainment value.


Remember a suitable smiley in here; so you are trying to

Angry Lynch Mob

me?


Okay..

Rhythm


Quote:I don't accept the notion of the ownership of human beings...because I'm not a slaver.


It's not like you have a choice.
Let's be honest: it wasn't you who gave the order for your parents to meet, nor did you choose your race or fainancial state at the moment of birth; let's go before that ; it wasn't you who gave the orders to his...1000 parents to meet!

The examples are not in your favor though. The more your family tree extends, the more complicated it gets. 
We didn't start to discuss the human genome yet; though..


Quote:Well, I guess it sucks to be him then, doesn't it, since I'm not going to be found picking the prayer cotton fields anytime soon.  

You breath and eat, right? you're doing exactly what your body was programmed to do; exactly like a slave.
Between the acronyms, I think it describes the situation quite well.


Quote:Meh, ofc it;s insulting..and it doesn't matter who massa is or thinks he is, nor do I care.

I do. So, I chat with other humans about it. 
I care though, because I love to thank those who do me favors.

I hate to be the guy who attends the party just to smoke,bake and eat then leave.

Quote:OFC I need help, all the time...I reckon I;m going to need even more ehlp than I thought if I;m the human chattel of some cosmic slave driver.   Won;t be asking the massa for that though, will I?

Exactly; and the point is in exactly this:
"you are weak creation, surrender yourself".

Surrender=Islam in Arabic :Smile here's where the name comes from, the first to use it was Abraham -peace be upon him0.

To be a Muslim, it surrender yourself to God.
A simple self-check will lead anybody to what you concluded.


Quote:Mhm, I bet the massa made the fence and cleared the forest and even forged my chains.  Or, I guess, he probably had some of his slaves do that but still.... 

Yes ! He had a very good reason to create things this way; actually a divine entity we cannot even apply our normal rules on, so..he was not having fun, 

Quote:He obviously doesn't care about me if he thinks I'll ever work on his little plantation, or that I'm ever going to till his fields for him.  He doesn't even -know- me to care about me. I'm just livestock.

You work for yourself, in front of him.
Though; all the work he asks you to do is either aimed you as a person+your property, or aimed at society.
Heathens are the ones who used to feed their Gods; not Muslims. In Islam, God explicitly ordered to feed the poor instead.
Just believe me. Your face, cloths, the way you speak, the money you have, the things you own, the car you drive, nothing of that defines you; only your actions do, only, that's your worth. Every action can be one of two: good or bad. That is you. Don't allow anybody to fool you into self-hating because of stupid standards, that sidetracks you from the main categories that define you.
-AtlasS
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#8
RE: More about God
So you admit that you believe in a god that wants to treat me like a slave. Yeah, forget it.
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#9
RE: More about God
So, if "god" created both existence and the void, where the hell is he? And...how does one go about creating a null-state of existence?
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#10
RE: More about God
(11th November 2016, 18:38)AtlasS33 Wrote: It's not like you have a choice.
OFC I do.  I may not be able to do anything about your slaver, but he obviously can;t make me accept the validity o human chattel..or he'd have done it by now, lol.....

Quote:Let's be honest: it wasn't you who gave the order for your parents to meet, nor did you choose your race or fainancial state at the moment of birth; let's go before that ; it wasn't you who gave the orders to his...1000 parents to meet!
Wasn't "allah" either...so I'm not sure why you think this is relevant, lol?  

Quote:You breath and eat, right? you're doing exactly what your body was programmed to do; exactly like a slave.
Between the acronyms, I think it describes the situation quite well.
You know that's not what it means to be a slave, right, but so what if that ignorant notion of slavery as having to do with eating and breathing were true...I can't do anything about those...and yet still you don't find me picking the prayer cotton.  So I guess he's just feeding me food and air for the hell of it.  What a sucker.  Back in my great granpappies day, they killed a useless field animal.  Your massa is, apparently, fine with me goin straight mandingo on his ass.

Quote:I do. So, I chat with other humans about it. 
I care though, because I love to thank those who do me favors.

I hate to be the guy who attends the party just to smoke,bake and eat then leave.
Meh, you're a slave, you have a slave mentality.  I can't help you there.  Bet you're the kind of guy that'd take the whip to your fellow field hands if massa said so, too.... / shrugs.

Quote:Exactly; and the point is in exactly this:
"you are weak creation, surrender yourself".
Apparently I'm either not such a weak creature that I actually surrender, or your gods not powerful enough to force me to do it.  Either way, Massas pretty small for a slaver, and the most he could call me was his prisoner, lol.

Quote:Yes ! He had a very good reason to create things this way; actually a divine entity we cannot even apply our normal rules on, so..he was having fun, 
...I don;t give a shit about massa's reasons or morality, he's a slaver and I'm not a slave, lol.  He can go fuck himself, and also, send more food and air.  KTHXBAI. 

Quote:You work for yourself, in front of him.
Then I'm not his slave after all, like you are. Sucks to be you?

Quote:Though; all the work he asks you to do is either aimed you as a person+your property, or aimed at society.
Heathens are the ones who used to feed their Gods; not Muslims. In Islam, God explicitly ordered to feed the poor instead.
Your gods never asked me to do anything, and slavers don't ask anyway, they command.  Why would I care what muslims do...you're the ambassador of the brand and here you are bullshitting us about human chattel?
 “I can’t even go to a goddamn potluck without having to thank some space fairy for the broccoli casserole!” -Trae Crowder


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