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More about God
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(11th November 2016, 17:35)AtlasS33 Wrote: --->He shouldn't care about us? makes more sense I mean, he's too big according to your story !!!!!!!!!!!!

--A-->It depends on how we see ourselves, and if we moved from the neanderthal mentality yet.
With the existence of death; that who made us, can remakes us.

When was it that we had a neanderthal mentality?

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Right around the last time Atlas posted, ofc.  

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There is a chance that the reason why so many coincidences like consciousness beings were produced by dead chemicals, said elements came from "nothing", were caused by an incomprehensible being like God.

God, might be completely different from how he is described in the religious scriptures, or not, He might be this brutal master who is content with mass fear of eternal hell among Catholics, Orthodox Christians and breathtaking torture of unimaginable intensity.

I think being slave of an ideal life in peaceful religion, in which you endure pain to strive towards good deeds, is an excellent life, no doubt in my mind. Im a slave of comfortable life, there is no way around it, but it doesn't mean you should provoke anger in people by your agressive preaching, because you feel like shit after tasting the bitterness of your own religion.
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(12th November 2016, 10:25)robvalue Wrote: Is that what he's trying to do? Make more Muslims?

If that's true, and if we are abject slaves by definition, then he's going about it all wrong.

Doesn't anyone have a god that can get shit done properly? Hell, Superman saved his girlfriend by making Earth spin backwards and turning back time! But god? His best shot is the occasional semi-coherent internet warrior who verbally spits up all over his apron and eventually stumbles out the door and gets hit by a station wagon.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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(12th November 2016, 08:49)robvalue Wrote: Okay, the reason you give for why I should care isn't very compelling. It's like telling me who built my house. Interesting but ultimately irrelevant. Even if they technically still own the house in some sense, but never show up to do anything about it, then again it doesn't matter to me.

You've convinced yourself you're a slave, that's rather sad. I'm a slave to no one. If I am in some sense a slave, I'm not aware of it and so again it is irrelevant. I'm restricted by physics of course, including what other life forms do to me. That's just life.

Life began with him; it shall end with him, too, in your example it's not just the house; but everything, including the "ability to build" itself; the meaning if build itself was made by him. Things have meaning because he said so. We eat because he wanted it that way. We also live because he said so. 

Aren't we slaves of our own bodies? prisoners of our own bodies? I can't lie to myself, and neglect a logical fact, or next thing you'll find me jumping from a mountain thinking I can fly. Knowing that I'm a "property of my limitations as a human" can at least save me for a day or two. Or may I say a "slave of my own body"?

Sickness though, has its way for example to convince us with this fact.

Jesster

Like I told Rob: everyday, we wake up to find ourselves locked inside our bodies, forced to go to the toilet, forced to eat, forced to drink, forced to produce dopamine during a sexual intercourse, forced to even breath. 

We love to call these with different names though like hunger, thirst or love...etc.

We call them anything but the real names: "Acts which we are forced to do; as humans".
 an example is when somebody stays under water for too long without air. They forcefully open their mouths to breath.

Slavery to God is nothing but the above.
It's not working the garden or watch the cows.

Homeless Nutter

Quote:Even if we entertain this laughable notion - so what? He can own whatever he wants, as long as he doesn't touch my stuff.

How so? we humans create stuff, and claim ownership over it. So why does God has no right to create us, and claim ownership over us?
In terms of copyrights at least.

I don't know what you mean by "as long as he doesn't touch my stuff". Because your stuff would never exist if he didn't:
1-Make atoms
2-Make a universe
3-Make an earth
4-Make you
5-Make the ability of your stuff to be, the stuff you currently see. In other words, if he -for example- didn't make electricity, you will never see lots of stuff.


Quote:No, dumbass - the relation between us and him, in our language is described with the words "imaginary friend".

Blind anti-theism detected.
I have no time for that.

Quote:What about being a slave to the rhythm? 

Dear God ! 
Okay..I have to inject an antidote:





Ain't he a victim of his own time?

Quote:What? If god doesn't need help, then why do dimwitted apes, like you, have to spread his message, beg, threaten and confuse other morons to believe it and make hand-waving excuses for your allegedly all-powerful god's impotence?

Because he's merciful. The thing is, all this life; all this, all this universe, is made for us.
Let's see:

1-A sun existing perfectly away from earth to allow human growth
2-A moon to give us light when the sun sets.
3-Too many examples in the cosmos for cold planets and what could've been the fate of our own earth if the sun was a little bit fat
4-An atmosphere to protect neanderthals like you from going extinct.
5-Ask a cosmologist about the other "odds" that made us exist here and now.

So It's all an act of mercy. Just like sex. He made humans into two; men and women; so they love each other and have fun as an act of mercy.
Food also is so nice, delicious, he could've made us like plants or bugs.

The voice of a guitar solo, and many other things that you know, realize and totally recognize as gifts given to you for free; things that you never made, things that existed even before your tiny arrogant existence.


Quote:That's nice. However - I created this post, just now, not god. I also took a sh*t this morning - all by myself. So god did not create everything, now, did he? Does Allah personally make your poop? 

Yes !
Your digestive system is his creation. the best system ever. Only the ignorant smell the poop, and forget:

1-The hunger that brings desperation; or perhaps lack of energy
2-Bringing the food; either by hunt or by going to the supermarket or ordering some
3-The chewing
4-The taste
5-The food -that was a fancy plate or a nice looking sandwitch- ended up being a chewed pile inside the belly.
6-Stuff which are good for us get extracted, and the rest turns to an ugly, dirty, filthy, smelly pile that end up in the toilet
7-Count the similiarties between poop and life.
8-Ask doctors about the smell of a dead person
9-Ask an old person about who, where and when his/her health got extracted to feed an organ -sorry I mean person- in life
10-Congratulations. You only saw poop; that tells you a lot about what kind of mentality you have.


Quote:I'm sorry, all of that is meaningless drivel. Maybe you can use it to impress some dumb chick, wearing a bag, so that she gives you an over-the-pants hand-job...

Don't get me wrong. I'm God's slave; not sex's slave. I left the impressing to you  Tongue

Yeah, so do I. Mine goes like this:

Quote:La la la la la la la la
La la la la la la la la
La la la la la la la la
God can suck my d*ck.

[Image: tongue.gif]

Ew ! go watch porn, or something !
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I will complete my comment; I didn't ignore any posts
Just believe me. Your face, clothes, the way you speak, the money you have, the things you own, the car you drive, nothing of that defines you; only your actions do, only, that's your worth. Every action can be one of two: good or bad. That is you. Don't allow anybody to fool you into self-hating because of stupid standards, that sidetracks you from the main categories that define you.
-Everybody is equal
-You;re not better than others by birth
-You're not your birth marks and scars
-You're your deeds
-AtlasS
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Okay... he owns everything. I still don't care, why should I? Yeah, we have physical limitations. That is life. And life sucks. If God is responsible for it sucking so much, then he is a total arsehole. So... what would you have me do?
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If anyone wondered why atlas posts the miserable shit he does, you have your answer.  The sad realization that he's a lowly slave.  It's true, ofc, regardless of the existence of allah, atlas is exactly what he imagines himself to be.
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He seems to be trying to depress me into worship. I'm already extremely depressed, I don't need any help there. But no matter how many times God kicks me in the nuts, I'm not going to thank him for it.

I'm really sorry that life is so bad for you Atlas that you feel like a slave. I don't know why you feel any kind of gratitude for this fact towards your supposed slaver. If I thought it was true, I'd feel only anger.
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