Politically Toxic

[chimp3]

Wasn't the idea of PC to create a safe unoppressive environment for X by regulating speech? Not so much fighting the root cause?

That's how I understand it.

[chimp3]

However... Just because an idea has been deemed politically incorrect by the politically correct does not make an idea a good idea when a the politically incorrect reject political correctness.

um. . . Sentence structure is a thing.

I know. It has a nice bumpy flow to it doesn't it ?

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

I get the impression that the people who rail the loudest against political correctness are also the ones who are upset that they can't say 'nigger' in public.

Boru

[abaris]

I get the impression that the people who rail the loudest against political correctness are also the ones who are upset that they can't say 'nigger' in public.

Boru

But that's also the reason why I compare the PC culture to putting a band aid over a festering wound. The one's not feeling able to say nigger, still think nigger. Better they reveal themselves for what they really are. If it's about public figures or the one's in power in a certain state, nation or region, maybe less people would fall for their narrative if they see the whole ugly picture.

[chimp3]

Hypothetically , let's say that political correctness never happened. The social situations are the same as when PC began. Sexist and racist humor is creating a negative environment in the workplace for women and minorities. How would this be better handled without political correctness? How should a woman that works in a male dominated industry confront the daily jokes and innuendos that are making her uncomfortable and impeding her career plans?

[paulpablo]

I think the people who want to say nigger want to say it purely because it's offensive.  

Whatever or whoever the word was created to describe, today it's the word people use if they want to either be racist, be extreme, be generally offensive.  Or obviously situations where they're describing the use of the word nigger like I'm doing in this post and things like that.

I relate to people who complain about a certain level of political correctness and that level is fairly prevalent in most people I see complain about political correctness online although their are exceptions.

I don't see a lot of people complaining that men should be able to grope women in the world place, or make jokes about a woman's body and so on.  It's usually complaining if someone is offended by the word "tits" or someone even mentioning anything sexual. Don't say the word nigger even if you're just describing it's use, like it's going to bring upon a curse on humanity just by the word being uttered.

But then there's a huge broad spectrum when it comes to a lot of these things.  

I probably work in the least politically correct workplace you can imagine, my supervisor will greet me with a "What are you looking at you ugly cunt?" and I'll respond with a "I'm looking right at you twat."
And my work is like one huge friendly village I love being there. I mean I'd rather be off work, but as work places go I love being there.

Not to mention all the sex talk and everything else that goes on, but I think there is a limit and I'd never want to say anything to someone that would actually hurt them or offend them in the work place.

[abaris]

Hypothetically , let's say that political correctness never happened. The social situations are the same as when PC began. Sexist and racist humor is creating a negative environment in the workplace for women and minorities. How would this be better handled without political correctness? How should a woman that works in a male dominated industry confront the daily jokes and innuendos that are  making her uncomfortable and impeding her career plans?

PC is nothing but a band aid or aspririn. Both fight the symptoms, but not the underlying desease.

If you want to something against the desease, you better find a therapy for it and not just sweep it under the carpet. I don't have any numbers, but I would be very surprised if mobbing against minorities or sexual assault on women or other incidences along these lines gew less frequent with the introduction of the PC culture.

[chimp3]

Hypothetically , let's say that political correctness never happened. The social situations are the same as when PC began. Sexist and racist humor is creating a negative environment in the workplace for women and minorities. How would this be better handled without political correctness? How should a woman that works in a male dominated industry confront the daily jokes and innuendos that are  making her uncomfortable and impeding her career plans?

PC is nothing but a band aid or aspririn. Both fight the symptoms, but not the underlying desease.

If you want to something against the desease, you better find a therapy for it and not just sweep it under the carpet. I don't have any numbers, but I would be very surprised if mobbing against minorities or sexual assault on women or other incidences along these lines gew less frequent with the introduction of the PC culture.

I agree a true cure is needed. But how would my hypothetical person above deal with misogyny  in the workplace?

[abaris]

I agree a true cure is needed. But how would my hypothetical person above deal with misogyny  in the workplace?

Do you think misogyny is tied to PC language? There are a million ways to make someone feel like shit without using the keywords. That's my observation based on experience.

[chimp3]

I think the people who want to say nigger want to say it purely because it's offensive.  

Whatever or whoever the word was created to describe, today it's the word people use if they want to either be racist, be extreme, be generally offensive.  Or obviously situations where they're describing the use of the word nigger like I'm doing in this post and things like that.

I relate to people who complain about a certain level of political correctness and that level is fairly prevalent in most people I see complain about political correctness online although their are exceptions.

I don't see a lot of people complaining that men should be able to grope women in the world place, or make jokes about a woman's body and so on.  It's usually complaining if someone is offended by the word "tits" or someone even mentioning anything sexual.  Don't say the word nigger even if you're just describing it's use, like it's going to bring upon a curse on humanity just by the word being uttered.

But then there's a huge broad spectrum when it comes to a lot of these things.  

I probably work in the least politically correct workplace you can imagine, my supervisor will greet me with a "What are you looking at you ugly cunt?" and I'll respond with a "I'm looking right at you twat."
And my work is like one huge friendly village I love being there.  I mean I'd rather be off work, but as work places go I love being there.

Not to mention all the sex talk and everything else that goes on, but I think there is a limit and I'd never want to say anything to someone that would actually hurt them or offend them in the work place.

I am in the opposite position at work. 8% of nurses are men. My supervisors are women. Those that I supervise are women except for two men. If I were to use the word cunt even once.....nuf said!