Politically Toxic

[chimp3]

I agree a true cure is needed. But how would my hypothetical person above deal with misogyny  in the workplace?

Do you think misogyny is tied to PC language? There are a million ways to make someone feel like shit without using the keywords. That's my observation based on experience.

In my hypothetical situation I predict a version of PC arising again. When people don't behave themselves the cops show up.

[paulpablo]

Do you think misogyny is tied to PC language? There are a million ways to make someone feel like shit without using the keywords. That's my observation based on experience.

In my hypothetical situation I predict a version of PC arising again. When people don't behave themselves the cops show up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h2IPMg1by8

And this guy shows up.

[abaris]

In my hypothetical situation I predict a version of PC arising again. When people don't behave themselves the cops show up.

That's why I don't do hypotheticals. Because they, for their largest part, have no base in reality.

[chimp3]

In my hypothetical situation I predict a version of PC arising again. When people don't behave themselves the cops show up.

That's why I don't do hypotheticals. Because they, for their largest part, have no base in reality.

I have not seen anyone here offer an alternative cure for bigotry that would substitute for PC. The current backlash against PC as evidenced by Trump and his fans should provide plenty of opportunity for those that have more than bandAids and aspirin.

[abaris]

I have not seen anyone here offer an alternative cure for bigotry that would substitute for PC. The current backlash against PC as evidenced by Trump and his fans should provide plenty of opportunity for those that have more than bandAids and aspirin.

Look, I'm not for calling anyone names, using racial slurs or sexist explitifs. But PC isn't an alternative to anything. It just sweeps the issues under the carpet by building the wall of nice, nice. The issue is as strong as ever, it just isn't out in the open. Maybe it's even worse, since it's allowed to ferment and fester while being covered up.

PC is window dressing in my opinion. It resolves nothing, since misogyny and racism are very much alive and kicking.

[chimp3]

I have not seen anyone here offer an alternative cure for bigotry that would substitute for PC. The current backlash against PC as evidenced by Trump and his fans should provide plenty of opportunity for those that have more than bandAids and aspirin.

Look, I'm not for calling anyone names, using racial slurs or sexist explitifs. But PC isn't an alternative to anything. It just sweeps the issues under the carpet by building the wall of nice, nice. The issue is as strong as ever, it just isn't out in the open. Maybe it's even worse, since it's allowed to ferment and fester while being covered up.

PC is window dressing in my opinion. It resolves nothing, since misogyny and racism are very much alive and kicking.

In the workplace , PC is not a cure but a protection. Who wants to deal with shitty ideas when you are simply trying to earn a living. As I said, anyone have a better idea?

[paulpablo]

Look, I'm not for calling anyone names, using racial slurs or sexist explitifs. But PC isn't an alternative to anything. It just sweeps the issues under the carpet by building the wall of nice, nice. The issue is as strong as ever, it just isn't out in the open. Maybe it's even worse, since it's allowed to ferment and fester while being covered up.

PC is window dressing in my opinion. It resolves nothing, since misogyny and racism are very much alive and kicking.

In the workplace , PC is not a cure but a protection. Who wants to deal with shitty ideas when you are simply trying to earn a living. As I said, anyone have a better idea?

The best idea is common sense.  

If a girl in work flirtatiously insults you a bit and calls you a dick or makes a sexual innuendo then it's pretty much common sense for this to be allowed in the work place.  It's comedy, it's socializing, it takes people's minds away from the monotony of work.  Don't go reporting it to the PC police because a woman has insulted you and used a sexual male body part and this could be considered sexual discrimination.

It's common sense that if a new girl walks into the room you don't comment on her tits or leer at her or some other shit like that.  

It's the common sense skill of being socially aware but sometimes these lines get blurred.  Some people are way more easily offended than others, other people are obnoxious and offensive to people and don't even realize.  

I think in most cases people shouldn't lose their jobs for saying some words that offended someone in a lot of cases.

On the other hand, in cases where the wording is continuous and obviously bullying or targeting someone intentionally then action should be taken.

I've been targeted and bullied by a couple of female managers before but it had nothing to do with me being male I don't think, or to do with PC culture.  Like I say I think it's just all about preventing bullying/aggressive and purposefully offensive behavior out of the workplace whoever is doing it for whatever reason whether it' based on racism, sexism or none of those reasons.

[chimp3]

On the other hand, in cases where the wording is continuous and obviously bullying or targeting someone intentionally then action should be taken.

Isn't that action taken what PC is? Or at least how it began?

[abaris]

In the workplace , PC is not a cure but a protection. Who wants to deal with shitty ideas when you are simply trying to earn a living. As I said, anyone have a better idea?

A protection? Are you an idealist? Maybe you simply have a different workplace experience than me. As I said, there are still a million ways to convey the same message without using any of the keywords. There's a million ways to hurt a person for what they are without using the N word, open sexism or other derogatorry terms.

[chimp3]

In the workplace , PC is not a cure but a protection. Who wants to deal with shitty ideas when you are simply trying to earn a living. As I said, anyone have a better idea?

A protection? Are you an idealist? Maybe you simply have a different workplace experience than me. As I said, there are still a million ways to convey the same message without using any of the keywords. There's a million ways to hurt a person for what they are without using the N word, open sexism or other derogatorry terms.

Not an idealist. Look at the policies of most businesses and you will find codes of conduct that prohibit behaviors which make the workplace uncomfortable for people to work in. These are protections for minorities and women who can now earn their living without battling shitty ideas all day. I did not make this shit up.