New religious cult in rise?

[LastPoet]

Don't have time to watch it because I'm at work, but there's a paradox with emotions. You need irrational emotional biases in order to act rationally. This is called the framing problem. If you can't arbitrarily decide between two equal choices you'll end up thinking through a myriad of possibilities. The neurosurgeon Antonio Damasio describes a patient with emotional impairment acting like this in his book Descartes Error when the patient is given a choice of two different days for his next appointment.

Ironically emotions are actually quite rational, you just have to understand them in the right context. For example, in a committed relationship with a jealous partner, they may act seemingly irrationally to any hint of infidelity, but in evolutionary terms this would stop any partner from being tempted to be unfaithful and may help them stick around and help raise the child.

It's understood that cognition generally widens the range of choices available to an agent while emotions narrow them. You don't want to be considering how tasty the grass might be if you've just heard the squawk of a predator for example, you want to make fleeing your priority over everything else. Doing otherwise would be quite irrational.

I had the pleasure of meeting him in person. He is a brilliant neurosurgeon/neuroscientist. My sister had epilepsy, he and one of his grad students pinpointed the place where it originated, luckily was in one single point in the brain. They operated and ended the epilepsy. All she had was a bit of cognitive problems while the synapses on the place healed.

Brilliant job.

[Edwardo Piet]

Don't have time to watch it because I'm at work, but there's a paradox with emotions. You need irrational emotional biases in order to act rationally.

Very true.

Daniel Kahneman is the expert on this. Have you read his seminal work "Thinking Fast and Slow?"







"I've called Daniel Kahneman the world's most influential living psychologist and I believe that is true. He pretty much created the field of behavioural economics and has revolutionised large parts of cognitive psychology and social psychology. His central message could not be more important, namely, that human reason left to its own devices is apt to engage in a number of fallacies and systematic errors, so if we want to make better decisions in our personal lives and as a society, we ought to be aware of these biases and seek workarounds. That's a powerful and important discovery."
― Steven Pinker. "Daniel Kahneman changed the way we think about thinking. But what do other thinkers think of him?," in The Observer, 16 February 2014.

[ProgrammingGodJordan]

What the flying fuck has happened to AtheneWins? Last time I saw him he was playing WoW, now he's a fucking cultist? o.o

I was literally just thinking the same thing.

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I had encountered Athene 5 years prior (amidst the facing video), whilst searching for alternate forms of equations in consciousness (..for I had prior attempted to axiomatize consciousness naively):






(B)

Athene is quite intriguing, however, I had come to forget him, as he had expressed beliefs, whence I had doffed such.

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Don't have time to watch it because I'm at work, but there's a paradox with emotions. You need irrational emotional biases in order to act rationally.

Very true.

Daniel Kahneman is the expert on this. Have you read his seminal work "Thinking Fast and Slow?"







"I've called Daniel Kahneman the world's most influential living psychologist and I believe that is true. He pretty much created the field of behavioural economics and has revolutionised large parts of cognitive psychology and social psychology. His central message could not be more important, namely, that human reason left to its own devices is apt to engage in a number of fallacies and systematic errors, so if we want to make better decisions in our personal lives and as a society, we ought to be aware of these biases and seek workarounds. That's a powerful and important discovery."
― Steven Pinker. "Daniel Kahneman changed the way we think about thinking. But what do other thinkers think of him?," in The Observer, 16 February 2014.

Nonsense.

There exists brain based artificial intelligence, that exceeds human performance in cognitive tasks, absent emotion's necessitation: http://singularityhub.com/2015/11/11/exp...ng-cancer/

[LastPoet]

I was literally just thinking the same thing.

(A)

I had encountered Athene 5 years prior (amidst the facing video), whilst searching for alternate forms of equations in consciousness (..for I had prior attempted to axiomatize consciousness naively):






(B)

Athene is quite intriguing, however, I had come to forget him, as he had expressed beliefs, whence I had doffed such.

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Very true.

Daniel Kahneman is the expert on this. Have you read his seminal work "Thinking Fast and Slow?"







"I've called Daniel Kahneman the world's most influential living psychologist and I believe that is true. He pretty much created the field of behavioural economics and has revolutionised large parts of cognitive psychology and social psychology. His central message could not be more important, namely, that human reason left to its own devices is apt to engage in a number of fallacies and systematic errors, so if we want to make better decisions in our personal lives and as a society, we ought to be aware of these biases and seek workarounds. That's a powerful and important discovery."
― Steven Pinker. "Daniel Kahneman changed the way we think about thinking. But what do other thinkers think of him?," in The Observer, 16 February 2014.

Nonsense.

There exists brain based artificial intelligence, that exceeds human performance in cognitive tasks, absent emotion's necessitation: http://singularityhub.com/2015/11/11/exp...ng-cancer/

I wonder how you keep repeating yourself and expect us to acknowledge your intelect. How can a so vaunted brain be unable to properly express itself?

[ProgrammingGodJordan]

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I had encountered Athene 5 years prior (amidst the facing video), whilst searching for alternate forms of equations in consciousness (..for I had prior attempted to axiomatize consciousness naively):






(B)

Athene is quite intriguing, however, I had come to forget him, as he had expressed beliefs, whence I had doffed such.

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Nonsense.

There exists brain based artificial intelligence, that exceeds human performance in cognitive tasks, absent emotion's necessitation: http://singularityhub.com/2015/11/11/exp...ng-cancer/

I wonder how you keep repeating yourself and expect us to acknowledge  your intellect**. How can a so vaunted brain be unable to properly express itself?

Albeit, it is an unavoidable factum, that brain based models exceed human performance, particularly absent emotion.

[brewer]

I smell scam. All young kids, express a desire to be recognized as a religion, must follow the steps or there could be disaster, and all smiling.

[Alex K]

I smell scam. All young kids, express a desire to be recognized as a religion, must follow the steps or there could be disaster, and all smiling.

Again, copied straight from the L. Ron playbook: if you attempt to do the higher OT levels without proper training, or if you deviate in any way from Hubbards "tech" standard procedure, he warns you that you can go crazy or even die.

[Astreja]

I'm wondering if this is some covert Co$ side project - "Try our new Thetan-free flavour!"

[Alex K]

I'm wondering if this is some covert Co$ side project - "Try our new Thetan-free flavour!"

Now with lessdifferent crazy.

[I_am_not_mafia]

Don't have time to watch it because I'm at work, but there's a paradox with emotions. You need irrational emotional biases in order to act rationally. This is called the framing problem. If you can't arbitrarily decide between two equal choices you'll end up thinking through a myriad of possibilities. The neurosurgeon Antonio Damasio describes a patient with emotional impairment acting like this in his book Descartes Error when the patient is given a choice of two different days for his next appointment.

Ironically emotions are actually quite rational, you just have to understand them in the right context. For example, in a committed relationship with a jealous partner, they may act seemingly irrationally to any hint of infidelity, but in evolutionary terms this would stop any partner from being tempted to be unfaithful and may help them stick around and help raise the child.

It's understood that cognition generally widens the range of choices available to an agent while emotions narrow them. You don't want to be considering how tasty the grass might be if you've just heard the squawk of a predator for example, you want to make fleeing your priority over everything else. Doing otherwise would be quite irrational.

Nonsense.

There exists brain based artificial intelligence, that exceeds human performance in cognitive tasks, absent emotion's necessitation: http://singularityhub.com/2015/11/11/exp...ng-cancer/

You're only calling it nonsense because it's outside of your limited experience, i.e. deep learning with simplistic models of neurons. Try reading the scientific literature sometime from neuroscientists researching emotions like Antonio Damasio, Joseph Ledoux, Jaak Panksepp, Jean Marc Fellous and Edmund Rolls. Add to that Artificial Intelligentsia such as Marvin Minsky, Dylan Evans, and the evolutionary biologist R.M. Nesse

These are just some of the main names, there are many other papers written about the functional role of emotions.