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America isnt evil, bankers and corporates are
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RE: America isnt evil, bankers and corporates are
(November 26, 2016 at 7:23 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: I have yet to see the good they do.

Are you typing that message with a smartphone or a computer?
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#12
RE: America isnt evil, bankers and corporates are
(November 26, 2016 at 7:15 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Corporations evil? They're business entities, not moral agents. They make life both easier and harder. They do good and evil.

They would gladly kill you and raffle off your organs if they thought they could make a dollar on the deal.
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RE: America isnt evil, bankers and corporates are
(November 26, 2016 at 7:40 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Are you typing that message with a smartphone or a computer?

I stay away from having a phone. Don't need one.
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#14
RE: America isnt evil, bankers and corporates are
(November 26, 2016 at 7:38 pm)Maelstrom Wrote:
(November 26, 2016 at 7:37 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: "What senses do we lack that we cannot see entire worlds around us?"

Evil worlds, I agree.

Agree with whom? Me? Hardly.

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RE: America isnt evil, bankers and corporates are
(November 26, 2016 at 7:40 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Are you typing that message with a smartphone or a computer?

In my understanding doing good means something entirely different than doing business. Of course we all profit by products and services being made available. But I wouldn't say that cashing in on the needs of consumers is my definition of doing good. It's something neutral. In short a business deal.
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RE: America isnt evil, bankers and corporates are
(November 26, 2016 at 8:56 pm)abaris Wrote:
(November 26, 2016 at 7:40 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Are you typing that message with a smartphone or a computer?

In my understanding doing good means something entirely different than doing business. Of course we all profit by products and services being made available. But I wouldn't say that cashing in on the needs of consumers is my definition of doing good. It's something neutral. In short a business deal.

That's silly. It just negates any good done by business by saying that business by it's very nature can't be 'doing good' I don't buy that at all. Some products and services that are part of business have improved the human condition massively. If that's not 'doing good' then I don't know what is.
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RE: America isnt evil, bankers and corporates are
(November 26, 2016 at 7:15 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Corporations evil? They're business entities, not moral agents. They make life both easier and harder. They do good and evil.

I work for one of the world's largest corporations and I'm rarely evil, only on special occasions.
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RE: America isnt evil, bankers and corporates are
(November 26, 2016 at 4:48 pm)Cobainism Wrote: Recently on news Norwegian corporates sold stuff to ISIS, just to give proof that it can be anyone.

Its bankers and corrupt organization who is evil, not USA, this includes dishonest journalists too people with no standards or morals who wants to make a article for a quick buck bought with the best money can buy. To say the least, Bush did a stupid move, but he is basically the scapegoat for everything wrong. Had it not been for 9/11 i don't think he would have such a bad record as he is now, most likely a goofball somewhat maybe but not nearly as bad.
 
His mistake was that he simply answered "We are going to attack terrorists by invading foreign countries". What he should've done is simply to build up an anti terror network. Which i agree with Trump on when he says he wants to rebuild NATO for that since USSR is an old enemy of the past and we live in a new world now. Basically Bush made the wrong move and that cost many US Americans lives in a stupid war for money and greed just to fill the pockets of bankers and corporate organizations who are corrupt on so many levels. USA is a superpower, but if anything it should be the fault of the bankers and corporate interests when they fund and support terrorist organizations in foreign countries of buying interests from them.

I could argue that the interests of these banks and corporations dominate U.S. politics to the extent that the upper strata of the upper class controls the general direction of the country. If you were to accept that premise, would America now be evil? Since our representatives follow the word of those evil entities?
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RE: America isnt evil, bankers and corporates are
(November 26, 2016 at 7:42 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
(November 26, 2016 at 7:15 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Corporations evil? They're business entities, not moral agents. They make life both easier and harder. They do good and evil.

They would gladly kill you and raffle off your organs if they thought they could make a dollar on the deal.

Of course many would. There are also corporations like Patagonia which do their level best to embody an ethical approach to business, and employee and community relations.

Broad generalizations can sometimes be useful, but get rid of corporations and tell me where you'll source medicines, vehicles, clothing, jobs, and so on.

(November 26, 2016 at 8:56 pm)abaris Wrote:
(November 26, 2016 at 7:40 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Are you typing that message with a smartphone or a computer?

In my understanding doing good means something entirely different than doing business. Of course we all profit by products and services being made available. But I wouldn't say that cashing in on the needs of consumers is my definition of doing good. It's something neutral. In short a business deal.

In short, neither moral nor immoral.

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#20
RE: America isnt evil, bankers and corporates are
I never said get rid of them.  I say regulate the motherfucking shit out of them to put a stop to their criminal activities and, when caught, take the fucking executives out and shoot them.

But that is not getting rid of them.
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