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Is the idea of self a coherent concept?
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Is the idea of self a coherent concept?
Yeah, sure, it's a useful label.  "I hurt myself while skiing" or whatever.

But upon deeper inquiry, what is really there?
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#2
RE: Is the idea of self a coherent concept?
Conscious part, which experiences the world or I. It doesn't creates anything at all, it uses instincts/"premade programs". Its best to view mind as some kind of A.I., I think.
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RE: Is the idea of self a coherent concept?
If self is not a coherent concept then could we discuss it?
 
"Each nation has created a god, and the god has always resembled his creators. He hated and loved what they hated and loved, and he was invariably found on the side of those in power. Each god was intensely patriotic, and detested all nations but his own. All these gods demanded praise, flattery, and worship. Most of them were pleased with sacrifice, and the smell of innocent blood has ever been considered a divine perfume. All these gods have insisted upon having a vast number of priests, and the priests have always insisted upon being supported by the people, and the principal business of these priests has been to boast about their god, and to insist that he could easily vanquish all the other gods put together." Ingersoll
 








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RE: Is the idea of self a coherent concept?
(1st January 2017, 08:20)chimp3 Wrote: If self is not a coherent concept then could we discuss it?

God is probably not a coherent concept, and we talk about that idea for hours on end.
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RE: Is the idea of self a coherent concept?
(1st January 2017, 10:02)bennyboy Wrote:
(1st January 2017, 08:20)chimp3 Wrote: If self is not a coherent concept then could we discuss it?

God is probably not a coherent concept, and we talk about that idea for hours on end.
Who is we?
 
"Each nation has created a god, and the god has always resembled his creators. He hated and loved what they hated and loved, and he was invariably found on the side of those in power. Each god was intensely patriotic, and detested all nations but his own. All these gods demanded praise, flattery, and worship. Most of them were pleased with sacrifice, and the smell of innocent blood has ever been considered a divine perfume. All these gods have insisted upon having a vast number of priests, and the priests have always insisted upon being supported by the people, and the principal business of these priests has been to boast about their god, and to insist that he could easily vanquish all the other gods put together." Ingersoll
 








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RE: Is the idea of self a coherent concept?
I'm not sure what you're asking. Is it, "Is the self a coherent concept," or rather, "Is the self an illusory concept?" I think as a concept, it's coherent, depending upon what one means by it. According to what I understand of the Buddhist concept of Anatta, the self is conceptually an unchanging, constant identity. I don't think that's so much incoherent as it is just one, probably false, conception of the self.
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