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[WinterHold]

[PETE_ROSE]

How do you reconcile Christ and his declarations of who He is in the New Testament, with how Islam represents Him as merely a minor prophet?

[ReptilianPeon]

[Crossless2.0]

How do you reconcile Christ and his declarations of who He is in the New Testament, with how Islam represents Him as merely a minor prophet?

That's easy. They don't believe that particular brand of bullshit any more than we do.

[viocjit]

[Astonished]

Hello people of this forum,
I myself am muslim and am here if you would like to ask a muslim a question. Don't hesitate
You can post a comment or pm me

Is there anything I could possibly say to you or do to your holy book or any holy artifacts that would motivate you to bring harm to me in any way, shape or form, and if not, why? Your book says you should chop my head off for the slightest blasphemy.

[WinterHold]

You know, brostergaming, Quran 5:32 has some missing parts which you didn't quote: 

On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our messengers with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land.

I could check it in my study Quran if you like? Al-Jalalayn is good, yes? This is what the Tafisr of 5:32 says:

Because of that, which Cain did, We decreed for the Children of Israel that whoever slays a soul for other than a soul, slain, or for, other than, corruption, committed, in the land, in the way of unbelief, fornication or waylaying and the like, it shall be as if he had slain mankind altogether; and whoever saves the life of one, by refraining from slaying, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind — Ibn ‘Abbās said [that the above is meant] in the sense of violating and protecting its [a soul’s] sanctity [respectively]. Our messengers have already come to them, that is, to the Children of Israel, with clear proofs, miracles, but after that many of them still commit excesses in the land, overstepping the bounds through disbelief, killing and the like.

The verse doesn't apply for everyone. Only the Children of Israel (e.g. Jews). I think you're taking verse 5:32 out of its historical context.

In Sura 16; though:

( 126 )   And if you punish [an enemy, O believers], punish with an equivalent of that with which you were harmed. But if you are patient - it is better for those who are patient.

Also; Muslims are supposed to believe in what was revealed before them; according to this verse:

Sura 4
( 136 )   O you who have believed, believe in Allah and His Messenger and the Book that He sent down upon His Messenger and the Scripture which He sent down before. And whoever disbelieves in Allah, His angels, His books, His messengers, and the Last Day has certainly gone far astray.

It is expressed again in a very explicit way in Sura 5, verses 44 to 48. 

Catholic_Lady

What is the theology behind it being moral for men to have multiple wives but not for women to have multiple husbands? Always been curious about this one lol. Asked my muslim friend and he had no clue.

Men are obligated to sponsor women economically but women aren't; the famous "beating" verse states it:

Sura 4
( 34 )   Men are standing with God's rights over women by what Allah has favored one over the other with and  what they spend from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in  absence what Allah would have them guard. But those from whom you fear rebellion advise them; , forsake them in bed; and  beat them. But if they obey you , seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.

Just as a side note. I never copy this verse without the "side note".

Men are obligated to carry on the duties that God ordered them to do with women.
These rights are a duty men must do, since God had gifted them over women with things like physical power and money.

In case the wife revolted, then it depends on the revolt itself. If she talked then the husband should talk; if she abandoned the husband in bedt should abandon her in bed; if she starts to beat him he should do the same.

A more general verse is the eye-for an eye. 

The "4 wives" verse is a single verse in Sura 4:
Sura 4
( 2 )   And give to the orphans their properties and do not substitute the defective [of your own] for the good [of theirs]. And do not consume their properties into your own. Indeed, that is ever a great sin.I( 3 )   And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphans, then marry those that please you of women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then one or those your right hand possesses. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice].

 If somebody can't be just to orphans, then they are allowed to marry up to 4 women instead
It's not a right for Muslim men to do it; they are 'only allowed to do so if they fear being unjust to orphans'.

The word "then" in the third verse makes a very big difference.

Joining these 2 with verse 34, will show how being a husband is more of a burden than a favor; men have to spend and do a list of religious obligations towards women. 

Women are not obligated to do that; though.

ReptileanPeon

And you know what the worst part is AtlasS33? All these Wahaabi noobs they have on places like PEACE TV and Guide Us TV they will happily criticize the "immoral Kuffar", but they never criticize the Saudis. They do, as you would say, word gymnastics for their paymasters and gently remind us of how nicely the Saudis treat the women of the Ummah. Let's be clear, if you're not from the Ummah then the Saudis, secretly or otherwise, hate you.

[Asmodee]

"Muslim" is a pretty broad term. There are Muslims who will threaten to kill you if you draw Muhammad. There are Muslims who WILL kill you if you draw Muhammad. There are more moderate Muslims with full beards to don't care if you don't have a full beard. There are Muslims in America who dress like any other American. There are Muslims who freak out when you ask for bacon in a halal KFC and Muslims who will explain that you can't get bacon on a halal KFC, politely and with a smile. There are ass kicking Muslims (in a bad way) like Osama Bin Laden and there are kick-ass Muslims like Aasif Mandvi. Like Christianity, there are a lot of different Muslim beliefs. The fact that you are a Muslim means nothing to me. I like Aasif Mandvi. I don't care what his religion is. I don't like Osama Bin Laden because of his religious beliefs, but it really has very little to do with him being a Muslim, it was his radical beliefs and actions I took exception to, beliefs most Muslims don't hold and actions most Muslims don't take.

So what kind of Muslim are you? Will you kill me if I insult Islam? Unlikely. Will you threaten it? I doubt it. Do you believe it is an acceptable response? I doubt that as well, but we're at least getting statistically more likely. It's easier to believe a thing is okay than to actually do that thing, after all. If you don't think violence is the appropriate response to someone disagreeing with you, even if they are insulting about it, I don't really have any questions for you. I also have no particular desire to convert you to atheism. I only take exception to religious zealots who try to impose their beliefs on me in some way, or, to a lesser extent, those who insist that they can prove their beliefs are true. You really don't strike me as "one of those Muslims", so I don't have a problem with you or your beliefs, if that's what you're thinking.

[brewer]

Did the OP poster get transformed into a holy ghost?

[ReptilianPeon]

Thanks AtlasS33, I knew there were other verses. Just a bad example on the part of the OP. Nice to know we have an Ulama on Atheist Forums.