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RE: Ideoligical atheists
March 14, 2017 at 9:51 pm
(March 14, 2017 at 11:37 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: While I agree that Marxism isn't identical to atheism, Marxism is atheistic. Ayn Rand's libertarianism would be a good example of an atheistic ideology at the opposite end of the spectrum. Nevertheless I would call them kissing-cousins of atheism.
That isn't useful at all. I'm an atheist but I would feel FAR more kinship with a liberal Christian than I would an Ayn Rand Objectivist.
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RE: Ideoligical atheists
March 14, 2017 at 9:54 pm
Marx lifted his commie stuff from the New Testament.
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RE: Ideoligical atheists
March 14, 2017 at 10:05 pm
There is nothing inherently Atheistic about Marxism nor Objectivism
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RE: Ideoligical atheists
March 15, 2017 at 12:02 am
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I am not making this up:
My favorite Mormon schism is the Congregation of Jehovah's Presbytery of Zion, and they incorporated small 'c' communism into Joe Smith's already heaping plate of continuously revised bullshittery.
Additionally, the disastrous early history of the Pilgrims in Plymouth Mass was due in no small part to their failed efforts in trying to live the early Christians commie dreams.
(obviously, they weren't praying hard enough)
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RE: Ideoligical atheists
March 15, 2017 at 2:23 am
That's usually the case when one doesn't pray up enough food, shelter, and good relations with one's neighbors.
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RE: Ideoligical atheists
March 16, 2017 at 1:23 am
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For the sake of argument, let's grant that atheism is indeed a religion/worldview/ideology (and it definitely is not any of this things).
So atheism is the aforementioned things. What's going to change? How does it matter? Does calling atheism such things discredit atheism?
I think the discussion on whether atheism is a religion or not is fruitless. Even if it were a ideology, I really, really wouldn't care.
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RE: Ideoligical atheists
March 16, 2017 at 7:26 am
I am so fucking sick of the "atheist=Marx, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Po Pot".
All of those leaders regardless of their personal beliefs lead RELIGIOUS MAJORITIES and had the support of religious people. Atheists are individuals, the atheists I call sane HATE DICTATORS! Christopher Hitchens hated Saddam, hated Kim Jong Un/Ill and wrote a book about Thomas Jefferson, "Jefferson, Author Of America".
It is not impossible for an atheist to value open societies and pluralism and human rights.
