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Where would you like your tax dollars to go?
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Emergency Auxiliary Backup Cat #2 would like to suggest some federal relief for his (perceived) lackluster care level here.
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(March 22, 2017 at 12:09 pm)popeyespappy Wrote: It can't be done without lowering costs. Removing profit margins from the equation wouldn't be enough by itself to make it workable either so we have to find other areas to reduce costs. I'm open to suggestions on how to do that...

A big driver for medical costs here in America are malpractice insurance premiums driven by lawsuits. I don't know how much, by percentage, that might be, but tort reform could probably help cap our costs.

We can talk about big pharma after that.

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Given the slim reductions possible, don't you think every efficiency ought to be brought to bear?

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(March 23, 2017 at 12:35 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Given the slim reductions possible, don't you think every efficiency ought to be brought to bear?

Is there enough inefficiency there to worry about it?  Studies don't really support that idea.
There are a lot of places to cut the fat, and victim compensation for legitimate injuries hardly seems the place to start. Do frivolous lawsuits exist?  Yes, but they are already rare, and there are already laws in place to punish those who bring those to bear.  Tort reform only hurts actual, legitimate victims, not frauds.

So to answer your question, yes.  Every efficiency ought to be bought to bear. However, this area is already pretty efficient (and steadily growing better over time, not worse) and doesn't seem to need more trimming atm.  

Our efforts would be much better spent on things like reducing outrageous drug costs, increasing preventative care (in order to reduce expensive emergency visits), normalizing costs (so that it costs the same to get an MRI in southern NY as it does in southern Arizona, not 6k in one place and 90k in the other) among other things.
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(March 23, 2017 at 10:51 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(March 22, 2017 at 12:09 pm)popeyespappy Wrote: It can't be done without lowering costs. Removing profit margins from the equation wouldn't be enough by itself to make it workable either so we have to find other areas to reduce costs. I'm open to suggestions on how to do that...

A big driver for medical costs here in America are malpractice insurance premiums driven by lawsuits. I don't know how much, by percentage, that might be, but tort reform could probably help cap our costs.

We can talk about big pharma after that.

I talked about the potential savings of tort reform earlier. I didn't put any numbers to it, but as Aroura pointed out the potential savings probably aren't as big as some might think. Although I can't believe lowering an OB/GYN's $34,000 annual malpractice insurance premium wouldn't help some. How many freaking annual exams does a doc have to do to pay that bill? I'm not really in love with how .gov has rolled out tort reform myself. What they have done so far reduces financial risk for the providers by increasing the financial risk of consumers.

I also talked about profits of hospitals, insurance providers and pharmaceutical companies as a target for potential savings earlier. My rough calculations say the maximum potential savings from completely zeroing out the profits from these three segments of the industry is 6% of total cost.

Another target for savings is executive compensation. There would be some obvious savings from limiting multi million dollar salaries and bonuses of industry executives. Probably not as much as many would think though. The thing to keep in mind here is that much of the compensation these executives receive comes in the form of stock options. Stock options have very little effect on the bottom line of the companies because the companies usually don't have to pay anything for them.

A couple of things I haven't seen mentioned yet are the costs of regulation compliance and compromised IT security. For the former HIPAA compliance costs healthcare companies a fortune. Failure to comply with HIPAA regulations can cost an even bigger fortune. For the latter ransomware has become a big problem for the healthcare industry, and hackers accessing systems for the express purpose of fucking with provider and insurance company billing codes is rapidly becoming another. The indications are the people fucking with the billing codes work for foreign governments. If true then part of the reason our healthcare costs are rising so quickly is international espionage.
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I've clearly got a lot to learn about this. Thanks to both of you for being so clear. I probably won't have too much to add here, but I'll definitely continue reading.

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