What are the Characteristics of a NT Christian?

[LadyForCamus]

There is no disconnect that I can see here, but this seems to fit well with compatibilism and if it's meant to be describing libertarian free will, it doesn't seem to provide a sufficient description.

The disconnect, if you need one, is in the elaboration you provided in this quote below:


I already explained what's wrong with this description in my previous response.

Then it seems you are asserting that only physical brain states are responsible for decisions. The only support I know for that conclusion is to presuppose naturalism (it can be no other way). If that is your reasoning, it is question begging. Is there another reason to believe that that is all that is happening?

How about zero evidence to suggest otherwise, for starters...

[Harry Nevis]

Before you go saying that God is everywhere, that is not going to hold up. The universe is expanding. If God was everywhere, is God expanding? Or perhaps becoming diluted? Additionally, the universe if finite. Does that mean that God is finite. More silly conclusion can be drawn from a too-simplistic view: for example, is a portion of God in my coffee cup and the rest of him outside of it? No, God does not occupy space and is therefore not literally everywhere. I believe he is cognizant of and causally active at every point in space.

Just to nitpick (because why the hell not), the universe and the cosmos are not the same thing.

It can be, if you only believe...

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Anyway...what the hell is supposed to be the difference between 'causally active' and 'physically present'?  I mean, for fuck's sake, Steve...

Like your sig, Lady.  I'm going to a Tom Waits tribute concert tonight.  Hopefully, someone will cover, "Christmas card From A Hooker in Minneapolis".

[Jackie]

The universe and cosmos are not the same thing is like saying a comedy movie and horror movie means one is a movie and the other is a toaster. So that means Jesus is the one true son of the only God of the bible?

Yea Steve, hope you have a daytime job because you would not make it in a lab.

[Mister Agenda]

So no free will in heaven as long as you stay within God's effective radius. And you turn out to be a literalist. God is omnipresent and located in heaven. God is a spirit and likes to sit in a chair. Good thing you believe he can only do the 'actually possible' or who knows what sleight of reality you'd have him doing.

Your definition of omnipresent is off. The idea is that God is aware of all points in the physical universe--not that he is in them.

You're saying omnipresence but you're describing omniscience. As I said, you seem to be describing a deity much like Odin sitting on he throne observing the universe (all the realms). It's an unorthodox position for a Christian, most seem to prefer to think of God as an omnipresent spirit (literally everywhere), but I think that view has little Biblical support when you get down to it, I'm surprised more believers don't jettison omnipresence; it's not an essential attribute for a theodic deity.

[SteveII]

[Mister Agenda]

This post was a mess and I'd like to take it back, please.

[GrandizerII]

It is better to semantically separate the universe from the cosmos, especially given the possibility of there being a multiverse (so a bunch of universes) instead of just one universe, and if we refer to everything in existence as the universe, then theists will keep making the mistake of equivocating between the local observable universe and the broader universe in their arguments for God (as can be illustrated by Steve's elaboration on God's "omnipresence") and atheists will have to keep paying attention to the equivocation.

[SteveII]

Your definition of omnipresent is off. The idea is that God is aware of all points in the physical universe--not that he is in them.

You're saying omnipresence but you're describing omniscience.

No, I define omniscience as God knows and believes all true proposition and he does not believe any false propositions.

[Mister Agenda]

You're saying omnipresence but you're describing omniscience.

No, I define omniscience as God knows and believes all true proposition and he does not believe any false propositions.

If you're going to use nonstandard definitions, you might as well not say anything.

om·nis·cience

/ämˈniSH(ə)ns,ämˈnisēəns/

noun

noun: omniscience

the state of knowing everything.

[LadyForCamus]

No, I define omniscience as God knows and believes all true proposition and he does not believe any false propositions.

If you're going to use nonstandard definitions, you might as well not say anything.

om·nis·cience

/ämˈniSH(ə)ns,ämˈnisēəns/

noun

noun: omniscience

the state of knowing everything.

So long as words can mean anything we want them to mean, and for any old reason, the narrative remains uncompromised. [emoji6]