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America drops "largest non-nuclear bomb in history" on Afganistan
#71
RE: America drops "largest non-nuclear bomb in history" on Afganistan
(April 16, 2017 at 4:11 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(April 14, 2017 at 11:37 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: Again citing fake news and suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome! The whole WLB is just another leftist projection of who they are; Whiny little bitches! Meals on wheels will remain, school children will not go hungry, and if you have not been paying attention to the financial news, he is making America great again. Consumer confidence is up, small business confindence is up, hiring is up, unemployment is going down, the national debt is going down. The progressives who really want to keep the poor down in order to control them is losing because as we all know a rising tide raises all ships, and you are about to see a resurgence of business which will hire people, and raise wages to keep talent and increase prosperity which will lead to the decrease of inequality. It's one thing the left doesn't understand, business. A major reason I and others have left the left.

No we are NOT simply whining. You don't know economic history or simply want to ignore it because you love the idea of a "tough guy" in office. 

REAGAN started the age of deregulation and union busting. And since then the GOP has increasingly gerrymandered district maps so much so they have the majority of state governments, the majority of governorships and the majority of the house and senate and supreme court in that 37 years. Democrats have only held the presidency 16 of the past 37 years.

And since then the pay gap has exploded, the top 1% are running away from the bottom two classes. Ike warned the world, not just America, but the world's leaders what bloated military spending could lead to, and now the world has nukes. 

THE DEBT IS GOING DOWN because of OBAMA not Bush, or did you forget what Bush left us with? 

Now this bullshit about bringing jobs back is a short term illusion. It is the same "tax cuts for the rich" that ends up in long term debt and sets up future bubbles.

Why bother Brian for fools like Scooby trump can do no wrong. And any valid critism will be filtered as" whining". As i have said trump could show up on the white house lawn draped in a cloak made of human skin . pledge his allegiance to Putin. preform a life human sacrifice on the lawn . Declare himself dictator for life . Then take a dump on constitution and these fools would still cheer him. Oh sure some of them work up the balls to complain but one twitter storm and they crawl back to kiss his boots.
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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#72
RE: America drops "largest non-nuclear bomb in history" on Afganistan
(April 14, 2017 at 3:55 pm)scoobysnack Wrote:
(April 14, 2017 at 3:32 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: I realize you can help it, but trying not being stupid, scooby.

Such things are kept in inventory.  Inventory has to be replaced.  

In addition, let's apply logic to nukes.  No big deal if we set 'em off, they're paid for, amirite?

Also, you forget - conveniently - that cost is only one aspect that is disagreed with.

So your solution is to never use any of the inventory of weapons we have then? Kind of like my fireworks analogy? haha, you sound fairly stupid with that reply. And really I see it as just another example of Trump derangement syndrome on the left when making a big deal about the cost. Plus the MOAB is old technology which is why it's public. The ones they don't tell you about will be public in about a decade or so. Something people don't understand about the massive costs is that a portion of the costs go into black budget programs.

No, we are simply pointing out LONG TERM bad policy that keeps getting us stuck in wars that do nothing. WW2 was the last war we were involved in that was decisive. But even on our side the amount of carpet bombing killed tons of civilians. While Hitler was the cause of it, between the weapons on all sides 50 million humans died.

Technology now allows us to be further away and more surgical. I really would suggest you pull your head out of your ass, because America is not the only nation on this planet and the planet regardless is a BALL, not infinitely flat where we can expand forever. And if nukes are used it will knock every country including America back to rocks and sticks if we are lucky and don't go extinct from a nuclear winter. Friend and foe alike combined have enough nukes to blow up the planet several times. 

This is the only planet our species have and your John Wayne bullshit doesn't cut it on the global scale anymore. If we are going to use our military ANYWHERE we better know what we are doing and we cant do what Bush did and simply go in. We did that with Nam and Korea too. The one thing Reagan DID do right was to get the world to back off nukes, and so did JFK. Trump's bullshit chest pounding isn't a symbol of strength or knowledge of global military interests, he simply wants to play boss like a kid on a play date.

His mouth is dangerous, PERIOD. He has no idea how even verbal diplomacy works. Even during his run 50 REPUBLICAN law agents warned us of what his presidency could lead to. An arms race is bat shit insane.
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#73
RE: America drops "largest non-nuclear bomb in history" on Afganistan
(April 16, 2017 at 5:04 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(April 14, 2017 at 3:55 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: So your solution is to never use any of the inventory of weapons we have then? Kind of like my fireworks analogy? haha, you sound fairly stupid with that reply. And really I see it as just another example of Trump derangement syndrome on the left when making a big deal about the cost. Plus the MOAB is old technology which is why it's public. The ones they don't tell you about will be public in about a decade or so. Something people don't understand about the massive costs is that a portion of the costs go into black budget programs.

No, we are simply pointing out LONG TERM bad policy that keeps getting us stuck in wars that do nothing. WW2 was the last war we were involved in that was decisive. But even on our side the amount of carpet bombing killed tons of civilians. While Hitler was the cause of it, between the weapons on all sides 50 million humans died.

Technology now allows us to be further away and more surgical. I really would suggest you pull your head out of your ass, because America is not the only nation on this planet and the planet regardless is a BALL, not infinitely flat where we can expand forever. And if nukes are used it will knock every country including America back to rocks and sticks if we are lucky and don't go extinct from a nuclear winter. Friend and foe alike combined have enough nukes to blow up the planet several times. 

This is the only planet our species have and your John Wayne bullshit doesn't cut it on the global scale anymore. If we are going to use our military ANYWHERE we better know what we are doing and we cant do what Bush did and simply go in. We did that with Nam and Korea too. The one thing Reagan DID do right was to get the world to back off nukes, and so did JFK. Trump's bullshit chest pounding isn't a symbol of strength or knowledge of global military interests, he simply wants to play boss like a kid on a play date.

His mouth is dangerous, PERIOD. He has no idea how even verbal diplomacy works. Even during his run 50 REPUBLICAN law agents warned us of what his presidency could lead to. An arms race is bat shit insane.

Agreed war should be decisive not just crusade for a crusades sake. It should planned out not just throw troops and huge amounts of weaponry in then get bogged down for 12 years with nothing to show for it . As for showing strength agreed this is just brainless chest thumping and will start another pointless arms race. And yes nuclear fallout doesn't care if your the good guys you'll die all the same.
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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#74
RE: America drops "largest non-nuclear bomb in history" on Afganistan
(April 14, 2017 at 11:37 pm)scoobysnack Wrote:
(April 14, 2017 at 11:23 pm)Nymphadora Wrote: Doesn't matter what the cost. It was a needless stunt. Just like the WLB cutting the Meals On Wheels program or some of his people saying children who can't afford to buy lunches in school should go hungry. How is any of what he or his administration done "making america great"?

Here's a clue:



Again citing fake news and suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome! The whole WLB is just another leftist projection of who they are; Whiny little bitches! Meals on wheels will remain, school children will not go hungry, and if you have not been paying attention to the financial news, he is making America great again. Consumer confidence is up, small business confindence is up, hiring is up, unemployment is going down, the national debt is going down. The progressives who really want to keep the poor down in order to control them is losing because as we all know a rising tide raises all ships, and you are about to see a resurgence of business which will hire people, and raise wages to keep talent and increase prosperity which will lead to the decrease of inequality. It's one thing the left doesn't understand, business. A major reason I and others have left the left.

Go fuck yourself you nazi dipshit.
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#75
RE: America drops "largest non-nuclear bomb in history" on Afganistan
(April 16, 2017 at 2:43 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: It does use guidance equipment and software.

GPS guidance is probably done by a standard strap on package. Not part of the weapon itself.
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#76
RE: America drops "largest non-nuclear bomb in history" on Afganistan
(April 17, 2017 at 12:41 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(April 16, 2017 at 2:43 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: It does use guidance equipment and software.

GPS guidance is probably done by a standard strap on package.  Not part of the weapon itself.

The fins are "cool" for lack of a better word. They had to guide a 22,000 pound package to a point after being kicked out of a Herky bird. That's not easy.
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#77
RE: America drops "largest non-nuclear bomb in history" on Afganistan
(April 17, 2017 at 12:41 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(April 16, 2017 at 2:43 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: It does use guidance equipment and software.

GPS guidance is probably done by a standard strap on package. Not part of the weapon itself.

Of course. That still renders it vastly more accurate than McVeigh's truck, don't you agree?

Exaggeration does nothing to advance a discussion.

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#78
RE: America drops "largest non-nuclear bomb in history" on Afganistan
(April 17, 2017 at 12:41 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(April 16, 2017 at 2:43 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: It does use guidance equipment and software.

GPS guidance is probably done by a standard strap on package.  Not part of the weapon itself.

Mostly for upgrading iron bombs. The GPS for MOAB was integral, built into the tail so the guidance package could inform the fins how to do their job.
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