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America's obsession with guns
RE: America's obsession with guns
(May 15, 2017 at 9:04 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: One can also lie by withholding information.

"Do you know where your brother is?"

(Last saw him floating down the river screaming for help. Not sure where he is now.)

"No."

It would still be intentional. There's no such thing as an unintentional lie.
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RE: America's obsession with guns
(May 15, 2017 at 3:28 pm)Jeanne Wrote: Perhaps you should define "far-right" for me and just how it has any control over gun deaths in decades old Democrat-held cities?

I have no intention of getting that close to you.

Nope, sorry doesn't work like that, rate is a ratio, not big vs small. 

I live out in the sticks by comparison and we have shootings and murders here too.
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RE: America's obsession with guns
(May 15, 2017 at 3:33 pm)Jeanne Wrote: Wow...that is a bunch of very diverse groups and people.  And....you are so uninformed.

But...wait, how do they have any control over the gun deaths in decades old Democrat-held cities?  Excepting the KKK, which was the military arm of the Democrat Party.  But...how do they alter the gun death rate so that it remains high?

I've 66 years old. I've served 20 years in the USN. I have bachelors in Psychology and Sociology and a Masters in History. I'm not sure how much more informed I can get given I only have one head.

(May 15, 2017 at 3:52 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote:
(May 15, 2017 at 9:04 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: One can also lie by withholding information.

"Do you know where your brother is?"

(Last saw him floating down the river screaming for help. Not sure where he is now.)

"No."

It would still be intentional. There's no such thing as an unintentional lie.
It's not unintentional, as my exampled showed. It's deliberate misdirection. That's still lying.
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RE: America's obsession with guns
(May 15, 2017 at 5:03 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(May 15, 2017 at 3:33 pm)Jeanne Wrote: Wow...that is a bunch of very diverse groups and people.  And....you are so uninformed.

But...wait, how do they have any control over the gun deaths in decades old Democrat-held cities?  Excepting the KKK, which was the military arm of the Democrat Party.  But...how do they alter the gun death rate so that it remains high?

I've 66 years old. I've served 20 years in the USN. I have bachelors in Psychology and Sociology and a Masters in History. I'm not sure how much more informed I can get given I only have one head.

(May 15, 2017 at 3:52 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: It would still be intentional. There's no such thing as an unintentional lie.
It's not unintentional, as my exampled showed. It's deliberate misdirection. That's still lying.

GS, it is possible to be uninformed about many things.  I suspect there is knowledge that I have that you do not have and vice versa, which makes each of us uninformed about what the other is well informed about.  

When speaking of guns, Nazis banned them; a disarmed populace is easy to control.  When speaking of KKK, the Democrats supported them and they worked with them to keep the black population from owning guns and intimidated.  When speaking of Beck, he is a Libertarian who supports the Constitution and works for reconciliation and against the Alt-Right and for liberty and charity...but overall for reconciliation.  When speaking of Limbaugh...well he is warning all of us of what we can lose; life, liberty and property when the Far-Left, which have been known as Liberals, Progressives, Statists, Socialists, Communists maintain control over our local, state and federal governments and can be of any political party.

Lumping them all together as the Far Right is an uninformed notion.

(May 15, 2017 at 4:31 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(May 15, 2017 at 3:28 pm)Jeanne Wrote: Perhaps you should define "far-right" for me and just how it has any control over gun deaths in decades old Democrat-held cities?

I have no intention of getting that close to you.

Nope, sorry doesn't work like that, rate is a ratio, not big vs small. 

I live out in the sticks by comparison and we have shootings and murders here too.

Not big versus small.  Democrat-held.  How can the far-right...whatever you think it is...have any control over those locales?
"The Ox is slow, but the Earth is patient."
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Your quibbles are noted. And dismissed.
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RE: America's obsession with guns
I like Jeanne. I like Gawdzilla too.

I dunno what the nature of both of your disagreement's is... I find this thread mostly boring. I was only really interested when one person (KUSA) accused another of lying without proof but admitted themselves they had definitely lied back.

But regardless of your disagreement... I like you both (Jeanne and Gawdzilla)... and you're both welcome to PM me.
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RE: America's obsession with guns
I don't do sidebars.
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RE: America's obsession with guns
LMAO.
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RE: America's obsession with guns
(May 16, 2017 at 10:21 am)Alasdair Ham Wrote: LMAO.

That was for a particular person.
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RE: America's obsession with guns
Oh. Who?
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