What do scientists say about existence?

[Ravenshire]

THINK INTELLIGENTLY on the words from Stimbo below I put in bold, and see how un-intelligent she speaks, though she feels so smug with having said something, Oh so abysmally deep, deep:

Nobody cares what scientists say about anything. All that matters is what the science says.

Honestly, Stimbo made the only statement in this thread you really need to pay attention to. "All that matters is what the science says." is exactly on point. You want to quote the scientists? Who gives a fuck. Quote their work. Nobody gives a shit that a cathy-lick came up with the big bang. The science is what matters. You want to impress us? Provide some science that points to your gawd. Not what some scientist or pseudo-scientist says. Show us the peer reviewed science.

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Well, no atheist here has so far dared to do genuine thinking, in order to come forth with his own personally thought out and written up concept of existence.

That is the proof that atheists here dare not do any genuine thinking.

You spew walls of barely coherent text, making claims which you can't back up, then accuse us of not thinking? Get bent.

[LostLocke]

Well, no atheist here has so far dared to do genuine thinking, in order to come forth with his own personally thought out and written up concept of existence.

Nobody bothers because in all your threads you start with one point, and then like a skipping CD, keep repeating that one idea over and over and over and over....

How about this. Let's say for the sake of argument that we all agree with your list of four things that represent 'existence'. Now, move on to your next point. I personally am curious to see where you're going with this, but if you just keep going over the first point constantly without progressing, then it's pointless to even bother answering your first question.

[bennyboy]

The problem is obviously that he wants to set you up with some killer argument he thinks he has, but he's far too clumsy to actually get you to say what he needs you to say.

My guess is it's something super simple, like if you say, "Existence is space and matter," then he wants to go Harris on us, and explain that everything, absolutely EVERYTHING, must have been created. . . but God. You know, something lame like that.

[LostLocke]

Yeah, that sounds about right. I just want to see how he's actually going to get there. If for nothing else than amusement's sake.

[Cyberman]

THINK INTELLIGENTLY on the words from Stimbo below I put in bold, and see how un-intelligent she speaks, though she feels so smug with having said something, Oh so abysmally deep, deep:

Honestly, Stimbo made the only statement in this thread you really need to pay attention to. "All that matters is what the science says." is exactly on point. You want to quote the scientists? Who gives a fuck. Quote their work. Nobody gives a shit that a cathy-lick came up with the big bang. The science is what matters. You want to impress us? Provide some science that points to your gawd. Not what some scientist or pseudo-scientist says. Show us the peer reviewed science.

Well he thinks I'm a she and that I only said it to feel smug. Minus two for two so far. Since (s)he no doubt considers her/himself discerning and oh-so intelligent, choosing to slight my character when my statement is right there to rebut, I can only take it as a sign of a direct hit.

[Mariosep]

So, as usual with you Oh ye atheists, you have not been thinking as to come to your own personally thought out and written up meaning of existence.

You guys can't think at all.

Addressing Mr. Obvious:

Dear Mr. Obvious, you are obviously not learned at all much less intelligent, because the best way of  giving the concept of what a word means is NOT to use the word in your definition of the word; think now, isn’t that circular talking and therefore betraying your intrinsic ignorance of the meaning of the word itself?

What a bullshit question anyways?
What is existance[sic] ?

If that's as vague a term as you are going to use:
Existance is.
That is all.

Hint: do research on principles of lexicography.

Your post will be located for the convenience of readers at below my signature post, as my signature post follows right away in Annex.

See all you guys again tomorrow, and in the meantime, you guys look so pathetic, you mistake a mantra like 'It is a delusion, it is a delusion..." for an argument - sad, very sad: all because you guys can't think at all or you choose what I call:

Acquired Intelligence Deficiency Syndrome.

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   #50 RE: What do scientists say about existence?
   Yesterday, 07:03 (This post was last modified: Yesterday, 07:48 by Mariosep. )
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   Dear Brewer, from the start you have been into evasiveness, namely, you have not said anything about existence, much less about what scientists say about existence.

   And you don't because you are into the instinct of continuous evasiveness as a stratagem to not have to come to the issue itself systematically, God exists or not.

   Systematic treatment requires us all to first work together as to concur on what is existence, that is why I am inviting everyone to contribute his thoughts on what is existence, including scientists, then we will work to concur on what is the concept of God I am propounding the existence of, and you are denying the existence of.

   You see, Brewer, I am telling you and all atheists, you have no guts to take up the issue systematically, but you dwell stubbornly in evasiveness, because that is the way to keep safe in your un-intelligent embrace of the identity of atheist.

   Okay, show yourself to be into the issue itself of God exists or not, with first contributing your concept of what is existence.

   Dear readers and atheists here, you also all think up what is existence and present it here, and we will work out a mutually agreed on concept of what is existence, otherwise we are irrational talking past each other's head.

   Here is again my concept of what is existence plus four examples:

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        This is an invitation for us all who are keen to know what is existence, what is a scientist, and does God exist, God from my part, in concept as first and foremost the creator cause of everything with a beginning, for us all to collaborate to resolve the meanings of existence, scientist, and God.

        From my part, existence is the reality which reality is the object of a living man having awareness, i.e. being conscious of his experiencing the presence of the said object.

        An example of existence is our nose.

        Another example of existence is the computer monitor screen we are looking at to read this post.

        A third example of existence is the rose in our flower garden.

        A fourth example of existence is the sun in the day sky and the moon in the night sky.

        What do you say, guys here: Do you have your idea of what is existence?

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      (13th June 2017, 03:34)mh.brewer Wrote:
      RE: What do scientists say about existence?
      Yesterday, 03:34 Brewer
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      Been here all along, it's fun to read your delusional idiocy.

      You claim god is the creator and therefore exists, well then prove it. god existing as a "concept" is a fantasy delusion, a non supportable product of the mind, no more believable than superman or santa.

      Congratulations, you bought into a fantasy delusion that is even not of your making. Other men made it and it sucked you in. Poor insecure delusional twit that you are.
      God(s) and religions are man made and the bane of humanity.

      Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most. Ozzy or Twain/take your pick
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   There, I have finished all the new posts here in my thread, and thank you so much, it is really a joyful sigh from me that you all react to my posts, no matter that you also hurl harsh language on me.

   But I am terribly disappointed because you none of you have presented what is your thinking on your own very personally thought up and written out concept of what is existence, perhaps you are not accustomed to do genuine thinking at all.

   Still it is not too late to start the custom of genuine thinking, grounded on observation and guided by truths, facts, logic, and the best thoughts of mankind from since the dawn of conscious reason.

   Now, I am telling you again that you are into what I call:

   Acquired Intelligence Deficiency Syndrome.

   I beg of you, put away that acquisition, and now at this point at least in time, THINK INTELLIGENTLY on the words from Stimbo below I put in bold, and see how un-intelligent she speaks, though she feels so smug with having said something, Oh so abysmally deep, deep: that in the process she forgot to read it again after first draft, and I have always taught my students, When you write something always read it again carefully to see if everything in it is intelligent.


   See you guys all again tomorrow



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   Dear real powers that be here in this forum website, thanks that I am here again, for I thought that I was banned forever, and I just the day before yesterday had to look up a forum to do writing in, because the Debate.org was down indefinitely for mysterious factors, and even when I deleted all its cookies, still it was down to my internet service provider.

   Thanks, because now I recall Stimbo was the one who it seemed then kept me out here.

   I hope this note here does not stir up some parties here to get me boycotted out again.

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      RE: What do scientists say about existence?
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      Nobody cares what scientists say about anything. All that matters is what the science says.


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Mr.Obvious  #66
RE: What do scientists say about existence?
Yesterday, 04:04

What a bullshit question anyways?
What is existance?

If that's as vague a term as you are going to use:
Existance is.
That is all.
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Fighting Fossils
I shan't please imposing apostles
herding people with their chime,
who waste lives fighting fossils
worn out by the sands of time.
Unaware they are, that an empty shell
bereft of flesh, blood and even bone
can not speak but certainly does tell
more than commandments in stone.
Behind the frames of who came before
there lie ideas unable to pass away;
Even when heroes fade, are no more,
their truths and legacies forever stay.
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[Cyberman]

Mario, if I had the unilateral authority to kick you and your inane twatbaggery out of here, antagonising me would be the least intelligent thing you could do. Which, given the quality of your posts, would be impressive indeed.

Now I realise you are suffering from what I just decided to call Arrogant Idiotic Dickhead Syndrome, so it's a demonstration of extreme courtesy for me to advise you to take your insinuations of paranoia and shove them as far up your arse hole as the obstruction of your pointy head will allow.

[The Valkyrie]

Well, aren't you a smug little cunt who posts loads of bullshit and then thinks he's better than everyone else when they don't take it seriously?

I've encountered this type of smug ass-hattery from Christians on many occasions.

And every time I do I discover it's an act to hide some deep seated deficiency in that individual. The more smug and arrogant the individual acts, often the more insecure they truly are.

So, want to lie down on the couch and tell us about it?

Or would you rather keep showing your ignorance on the forum so you can then run away and play with yourself over how "better" than atheists you *think* you are?

[Jesster]

Dear Mariosep,

"The Old Man and the Sea is the story of a fight between an elderly, accomplished fisherman, Santiago, and a really big fish. Like… HUGE. The story opens with Santiago suffering eighty-four days without catching a fish because he’s the unluckiest son-of-a-bitch on planet earth. Honestly, if you were in a boat for eighty-four days, it’d be hard to NOT catch a fish… even by accident. Santiago was so unlucky that his apprentice, Manolin, was forbidden by his Ma and Pa to fish with him. But as The Fresh Prince used to say, ‘Parents Just Don’t Understand’. So the boy visits Santiago’s shack anyway.

Ignoring the inherent risks of unsupervised playtime with an elderly man who talks to himself, Manolin helps out, moving Santiago’s fishing gear, making food and talking about baseball. Especially Joe DiMaggio; who used to bump fuzzies with Marilyn Monroe. The next day, Santiago tells Manolin that he’s going way out into the Gulf Stream. WAY OUT north of Cuba. Lady luck is returning!

On the eighty-fifth day of his crappy luck, Santiago drops his lines, and by noon, gets a bite from what feels like a big ass fish. He’s sure it’s a winner. He fights and fights and fights but can’t pull the monster in. Santiago’s leaky old boat is pulled by the fish for two days and nights as he holds on for dear life. Even though he’s bloody and beat, Santiago begins to appreciate this mighty adversary. He starts calling him “brother” or maybe even, “bro.” It’s sort of a love story if you really think about it. And like most romantic comedies, the reader pictures a delightful outfit changing montage, followed by the inevitable interspecies wedding.

But on the third day, Santiago is freakin’ EXHAUSTED, and decides he just wants the fish to do what he says and not always swim wherever it wants. So he stabs it. With a f*cking harpoon. It’s a mess. Super gross. Blood everywhere. Because, like many men his age, Santiago has difficulty expressing his emotions and fears with words - instead giving in to base desires - and imposing his gigantically terrible positions on any given subject through unblinking violence. Typical.

Anyway, he straps the marlin to the side of his skiff and hits the road home, ready to act like a total show off to everyone and probably gouge people on the price. But guess what? Pretty soon sharks begin to attack the bleeding marlin’s carcass, because we all know, life is a tragic opera and just when you think you’ve finally found something good and true, sharks come along and rip it all to f*cking shreds while dry-humping your dignity with their crazy-weird shark dicks. Sure, Santiago tries killing a few of them, but drops his harpoon because his hands are just as old as he is. By nighttime, the sharks have pretty much eaten the entire marlin.

Only a bleach-white skeleton remains, silently mocking him in the murky darkness. Santiago realizes he’s still unlucky. REALLY unlucky. (Duh!) He calls the sharks “dream killers”. Which isn’t really all that fair. I mean, the sharks were just doing their job and the marlin… Jesus, don’t even get me started on the marlin! It was just hanging out one day, minding it’s own business, maybe thinking about ways it could be a better provider for it’s family and WHAM! Harpoon in the brain. Who’s the “dream killer” now, f*ckface? The hypocrisy is pretty much boundless at this point.

Eventually Santiago makes it ashore. Leaving the bones of the marlin and the boat, he hobbles to his shack. He makes it home and crashes, like I said - he’s super tired. The next morning a group of fishermen gather around Santiago’s boat. One measures the skeleton and, holy shit-shingles! It’s over 18 feet! The head of the fish is given to Pedrico (strange that this is the first mention of him) and the other fishermen ask Manolin to send their glad tidings to the old man.

Manolin brings Santiago newspapers and coffee when he wakes and they decide to fish together again. Many years later, there’s a Red Lobster Restaurant in nearly every city in America, offering a casual dining experience and convenient parking."

[Mr.Obvious]

So, as usual with you Oh ye atheists, you have not been thinking as to come to your own personally thought out and written up meaning of existence.

You guys can't think at all.

Addressing Mr. Obvious:

Dear Mr. Obvious, you are obviously not learned at all much less intelligent, because the best way of  giving the concept of what a word means is NOT to use the word in your definition of the word; think now, isn’t that circular talking and therefore betraying your intrinsic ignorance of the meaning of the word itself?

Hint: do research on principles of lexicography.

Your post will be located for the convenience of readers at below my signature post, as my signature post follows right away in Annex.

Adressing Mariosep:

Thin veils of expensive words lugged together in an awfull, unchopped monstrosity of a sentence is not a display of intelligence.
Neither is a void question anymore than a vain and pathetic attempt at seeming deep.
Existence is. I dare you to find me a better way of putting it. Honestly. It's not using the word to explain itself. It's simply stopping where no more words are needed. Where the growing pile would be detrimental. Less is more. Brevity is key. A lesson you'd do well to learn.

Hint: The world is a much simpler place than you may make it out to be. And perhaps more absurd than any of us realize.

Your post was adressed above, for the convencience of readers. Because it's simpler. I'm a simple guy. And not a pathetic showboat desperate to get a rise out of people by being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian.