Religious Funerals

[Little Rik]

I have not been on Atheist Forums much in the past couple of months mainly because one I have been on Facebook mostly and reading an e-book and also my brother died a couple of weeks ago.

Majority of my family are Christian, I am the only atheist in this family that I know of.

I attended his funeral.  Though I intellectually understand the need for funerals, both anthropologically and sociologically, on a personal level for myself I do not like attending Christian funeral services.  When my uncle died about a month and a half ago, I did not attend, mainly because I do not like being around my Conservative and Republican relatives, but also I do not want to be preached to.  Christian funerals are, as far as I am concerned, an excuse to proselytize people and I hate being proselytized.

All the people who came to me and gave their religious platitudes of "he is in a better place" and "he is in heaven with God" do not impress me.  It only pisses me off.

So, at any rate, there it is.  Another example of why rational secular people get dumped on living in a general and specific religious culture.

I am venting.  Just wanted to get this off my chest.  Yes my brother was a Christian, but I still loved him and I miss him.  I said goodbye, in my own way, despite all the nonsense.
   

Different people have different beliefs or no beliefs.
Your brother as you say was a Christian so obviously there was a Christian funeral.
I don't see why you should get upset about it.
Live and let live ......believe or not believe.
If I should worry every time someone say or does something that don't follow with my beliefs I
would have gone already insane.
To be upset for your brother death is natural but getting upset for what other people think or follow is not
a great idea.

[Secular Elf]

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Which e-book are you reading?
I'm sorry about the loss of your brother.  

Good to see you, though.

I have only attended a couple of funerals in my life.  It is something I do not see myself doing again at all.

Hi Lutrinae. Good to be seen. Thanks for your condolences. I am reading, more like re-reading the "Lords of Kobol" series by Edward T. Yeatts III. It is in the re-imagined Battlestar Galactica universe. It is a really good story.

You have been added on my FB.

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I have made all my family aware that I don't want a religious funeral, I have arranged what I want to happen to my remains (transplant or medical research if suitable)
The first line of the funeral plan reads "At the funeral there should be no priests, vicars, ministers, shamans, witch doctors or other peddlers of superstitious nonsense"
I have also chosen some music, ending with "Always look on the bright side of life" from Monty Python, anyone who doesn't like can stay at home - more beer for everyone else!  

That is a good funeral plan. I like that. I need to make arrangements, a will and all that. I am one of the poor folk, or po folk as we say in the South. Does not leave much room for planning I guess.

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Christian funerals are, as far as I am concerned, an excuse to proselytize people and I hate being proselytized.

Christian funerals are an excuse for people who don't know shit from shinola to talk about their ignorance endlessly to a group of people who are too polite to tell them to go fuck themselves.

I hear ya Min. I love your plain spoken tell-it-like-it-is attitude.

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I have not been on Atheist Forums much in the past couple of months mainly because one I have been on Facebook mostly and reading an e-book and also my brother died a couple of weeks ago.

Majority of my family are Christian, I am the only atheist in this family that I know of.

I attended his funeral.  Though I intellectually understand the need for funerals, both anthropologically and sociologically, on a personal level for myself I do not like attending Christian funeral services.  When my uncle died about a month and a half ago, I did not attend, mainly because I do not like being around my Conservative and Republican relatives, but also I do not want to be preached to.  Christian funerals are, as far as I am concerned, an excuse to proselytize people and I hate being proselytized.

All the people who came to me and gave their religious platitudes of "he is in a better place" and "he is in heaven with God" do not impress me.  It only pisses me off.

So, at any rate, there it is.  Another example of why rational secular people get dumped on living in a general and specific religious culture.

I am venting.  Just wanted to get this off my chest.  Yes my brother was a Christian, but I still loved him and I miss him.  I said goodbye, in my own way, despite all the nonsense.
   

Different people have different beliefs or no beliefs.
Your brother as you say was a Christian so obviously there was a Christian funeral.
I don't see why you should get upset about it.
Live and let live ......believe or not believe.
If I should worry every time someone say or does something that don't follow with my beliefs I
would have gone already insane.
To be upset for your brother death is natural but getting upset for what other people think or follow is not
a great idea.

I do take your point.

Christianity in America, especially where I live in the South, is a dick of a religion, and it is everywhere in my face day in and day out. Bible verse stickers placed on the back and or front of traffic street signs, someone painting "Jesus" or "Jesus Loves You" on wooden signs and nailing them on telephone polls, even saw a humongous figure of Jesus painted on the side of a barn. "In God We Trust" on the back end of people's license plates, paid for with my tax dollars. I really don't care what anyone believes in for themselves, all I ask of people is to remove their penis out of my face and put it back in their pants. I do not want to see that shit.

Walk in my shoes for a while then you might see why I get upset.

[Little Rik]

Different people have different beliefs or no beliefs.
Your brother as you say was a Christian so obviously there was a Christian funeral.
I don't see why you should get upset about it.
Live and let live ......believe or not believe.
If I should worry every time someone say or does something that don't follow with my beliefs I
would have gone already insane.
To be upset for your brother death is natural but getting upset for what other people think or follow is not
a great idea.

I do take your point.

Christianity in America, especially where I live in the South, is a dick of a religion, and it is everywhere in my face day in and day out.  Bible verse stickers placed on the back and or front of traffic street signs, someone painting "Jesus" or "Jesus Loves You" on wooden signs and nailing them on telephone polls, even saw a humongous figure of Jesus painted on the side of a barn.  "In God We Trust" on the back end of people's license plates, paid for with my tax dollars.  I really don't care what anyone believes in for themselves, all I ask of people is to remove their penis out of my face and put it back in their pants.  I do not want to see that shit.

Walk in my shoes for a while then you might see why I get upset.

I may be lucky in the sense that here in Brisbane we do not have so many religious fanatics except for the occasional Jehovah witness or Mormons that maybe twice a year knock at my door but I still have other types of problems.
I got some of my neighbors that barbecue the meat and the smell for a vegetarian like me is horrendous
plus dog barking here and there so at the end i think is impossible to live in peace whether we are bored by religions, dog barking or anything else.
Life on earth wasn't meant to be easy Elf.  

[Der/die AtheistIn]

Sincere condolences.

[Succubus]

I may be lucky in the sense that here in Brisbane we do not have so many religious fanatics except for the occasional Jehovah witness or Mormons that maybe twice a year knock at my door but I still have other types of problems.
I got some of my neighbors that barbecue the meat and the smell for a vegetarian like me is horrendous plus dog barking here and there so at the end i think is impossible to live in peace whether we are bored by religions, dog barking or anything else.
Life on earth wasn't meant to be easy Elf.  

What? The dogs were next on the barbie?

I may have to share this planet with animals, but I'm doing my damn best to eat every last one of them.

[Little Rik]

I may be lucky in the sense that here in Brisbane we do not have so many religious fanatics except for the occasional Jehovah witness or Mormons that maybe twice a year knock at my door but I still have other types of problems.
I got some of my neighbors that barbecue the meat and the smell for a vegetarian like me is horrendous plus dog barking here and there so at the end i think is impossible to live in peace whether we are bored by religions, dog barking or anything else.
Life on earth wasn't meant to be easy Elf.  

What? The dogs were next on the barbie?

I may have to share this planet with animals, but I'm doing my damn best to eat every last one of them.

Being there read that crap from your link.

As far as you do your best you are ok. even if somebody else is not.
Take when we breathe.
Did you know that we kill a myriad of germs that are in the air?
Take when we walk around.
Did you know that we kill a myriad of tiny animals that live on the ground?
How can we avoid all this?

We can't, that is why is a dogma and an impossibility to live without killing.
What is not an impossibility is to do our best to avoid killing if we can.
Not only that but if we can not avoid killing then we should kill those creatures with less consciousness
and this is what vegan and vegetarians are doing.
Plants, seeds, beans, nuts and fruits are the ideal food for smart people who wish to advance consciousness
speaking.
All other ideologies are just rubbish.
Livestock are thousand times more advanced in consciousness than plants so by killing them you screw yourself up and with that you cause damages in the environment.
If then in the course of cutting plant food you also may kill small animals then you still are not guilty
because you have no other option other than die by starvation.  

Smart thinking Succu and always remember this ............less consciousness less pain......more consciousness more pain.