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Does anyone besides me hate Ferris Bueller?
#11
RE: Does anyone besides me hate Ferris Bueller?
Ferris Bueller is a righteous dude.
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#12
RE: Does anyone besides me hate Ferris Bueller?
Ferris Bueller was not my kind of movie. Now, movies that mocked education were not all bad. "Animal House" , for instance.
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#13
RE: Does anyone besides me hate Ferris Bueller?
I can't honestly blame the sort of people who hate it, but given that:
  • It does a damn fine depiction (both in likability and accuracy) of life in Chicago, something that's remarkably rare indeed in media.
  • It has an excellent soundtrack, including ACTUALLY GETTING THE BEATLES TO LICENSE ONE OF THEIR RECORDINGS, which, as it turns out, is exceptionally difficult and expensive.
  • The exceptionally fascinating performances (even making Ben Stein interesting in one scene)
  • There is actually a compelling reading of the film that Ferris is actually a Tyler Durdenesque figment of Cameron's imagination, that may help with reading.
  • The balls on goddam EVERYONE.
  • I've always had a soft spot for John Hughes movies (at least until he decided to stop giving a shit, maybe starting with She's Having a Baby, maybe with Home Alone)
  • The painfully true fact that the contrast between the reactions to Jeannie's and Ferris' antics are a reflection to how phony human relationships can really be (it's not about how right you are; it's about how you can charm the pants off people who may have power over you)
  • It was actually Richard Roeper's favourite film.
I can't hate it. Maybe the fact that I spent every school morning of high school watching Saved By The Bell inured  me to the charms of the borderline-sociopathic high school kid archetype.
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RE: Does anyone besides me hate Ferris Bueller?
For me, Ferris Bueller is like ET: Yet another movie I won't ever be seeing.
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#15
RE: Does anyone besides me hate Ferris Bueller?
I think it sort of depends on the type of delinquency and the overall character of the person. I don't remember the movie that well so it can't have left much of an impression on me. But others who exhibit similar callous and indulgent behavior like Eric Cartman from South Park or Rick Sanchez from Rick and Morty, are some of my favorite characters (then again, they get more time than one single movie). It's not necessarily a matter of, what this person did, but if they can 'pull it off'. If they manage to make you still like them because of who they are and not purely what they do.
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RE: Does anyone besides me hate Ferris Bueller?
(July 3, 2017 at 12:24 am)The Valkyrie Wrote: For me, Ferris Bueller is like ET:  Yet another movie I won't ever be seeing.

lol, yeah by the time I saw ET I already saw every copycat of that movie that ET seemed lame.

When it comes to Ferris I did find the movie fun and when it comes to it's stance on education from what I remember Ferris was really good student who just wanted to take one day break from school and I guess it is about a point in High School when you start feeling adultish and people around you treat you as a kid. And also when it comes to education you can't say there aren't problems. In FB you see Ben Stein holding a very boring class and I guess almost everybody encountered classes and teachers that bore them and it is I guess a fact that schools and teachers are underplayed and it you get a feeling that real education gets shunned and is dysfunctional as it is.

For instance Noam Chomsky talks about this in documentary "Is The Man Who Is Tall Happy?"

There is also interesting bit on education by Michio Kaku
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMtuQBSUcZI
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(July 3, 2017 at 1:05 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(July 3, 2017 at 12:24 am)The Valkyrie Wrote: For me, Ferris Bueller is like ET:  Yet another movie I won't ever be seeing.

lol, yeah by the time I saw ET I already saw every copycat of that movie that ET seemed lame.

When it comes to Ferris I did find the movie fun and when it comes to it's stance on education from what I remember Ferris was really good student who just wanted to take one day break from school and I guess it is about a point in High School when you start feeling adultish and people around you treat you as a kid. And also when it comes to education you can't say there aren't problems. In FB you see Ben Stein holding a very boring class and I guess almost everybody encountered classes and teachers that bore them and it is I guess a fact that schools and teachers are underplayed and it you get a feeling that real education gets shunned and is dysfunctional as it is.

For instance Noam Chomsky talks about this in documentary "Is The Man Who Is Tall Happy?"

There is also interesting bit on education by Michio Kaku
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMtuQBSUcZI

That said, apparently, in the film, we saw his NINTH "sick day" of the school year, so it's not like this was supposed to be a one time thing. It seems like he could very well be an A-student if all the work he put into his playing hooky into his schoolwork. That said, when I was a kid, I had a very adversarial relationship with my school. In addition to the bullying that was more or less school-sanctioned, I didn't actually learn much there. I wound up learning a hell of a lot more by teaching myself at the local library (and the Internet when we got that). As Will Hunting said, “You wasted $150,000 on an education you coulda got for $1.50 in late fees at the public library.” When you go into life like that, it's really not hard to see why someone intelligent would prefer to good off than spend a day at that place of hostility. Then again, since Ferris is friends with everyone, that might not hold as much water, but it's still understandable.
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RE: Does anyone besides me hate Ferris Bueller?
Yeah I get what you're saying. Some classes are designed to be useless and make you useless. Like gym class. I mean has anyone in the history of gym class learned anything in there? It was so on the point when in "Red Dwarf" Holly says "I am ship's computer with IQ of 6000 which is like 6000 gym class teachers." It's like there's a cloning facility of gym teachers where they make them wear sweatpants, chew gum and just yell at people. Like I remember in High School the guy would start yelling and have have fits like he would tell me "Do you understand how obnoxious you make me?! Every time I see you darkness falls on my eyes!" and I guess I really went on his nerve because very shortly after I left he died, I mean I guess that darkness was fatal.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#19
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I can recite the entire movie.

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RE: Does anyone besides me hate Ferris Bueller?
(July 2, 2017 at 4:34 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: With you all the way on this one, Bri.  'Ferris Bueller's Day Off' is clearly the impetus for the rash of Chicago teens driving high-end sports cars into swimming pools, a plague which has darkened our society for the last 30 years.

I also wish something could be done about 'The Walking Dead'.  It's getting so I can't even get down to the market without dodging a few zombies.

Boru

nb: the above is intended as sarcasm.  Below is my legitimate reaction:



Yes it is just a movie. But even today we have too much crap. Duck Dynasty, Jerry Springer, WWE.

The plot sucks alone, nobody is saying it should never have gotten made. But in reality, having been manipulated as a kid by bullies just to fit in, the plot sucks. If you wreck your dad's car because your friend talked you into it, in reality they are not your friend. Peer pressure isn't a Hollywood script. 

In reality both Ferris and his friend would get in some very serious trouble. That movie is just as unrealistic as when someone in an action movie gets shot and they get thrown backwards throw a glass window. I agree that it is just a movie and that is my entire point. The movie SUCKED and the plot sucked. But yea, it is just a movie.
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