Am I nuts? I like Jesus..:)

[Whateverist]

"Not all who call me "Lord,Lord" will enter the kingdom of heaven. Then I'll tell them plainly, I never knew you, get away from me" (Matt 7:21-23)[/i]

Yeah, Jesus talked some good smack. What a thug. Too bad he is just a fictional character believed in fervently by those unfortunate enough to have parents indoctrinate them in the 'faith'. (Scare quotes only because the rigid, literal beliefs of so many Christians are the antithesis of faith. Just unyielding, unthinking insistence that the truth is what has been promised and not what our senses and reason does reveal.)

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In order for us to find that out he'd have to cum again.

Ha Ha and there was I thinking atheists didn't have a sense of humour..
Incidentally why do some top atheists have trouble keeping their marriages together?
For example-
Carl Sagan (married 3 times)
Richard Dawkins (married 3 times)
Stephen Hawking (married twice)

Let's guess how it went in Dawkins case-
Wifeys 1and 2 in bed- "Oh Dickie darling, talk sexy to me!"

Variation in divorce rates by religion:
Religion
% have been divorced
Jews
30%
Born-again Christians
27%
Other Christians
24%
Atheists, Agnostics
21%

http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_dira.htm

[Dropship]

Steady on, that's only out-of-context Old Testament stuff!
If God wanted us to stick with the Old T he wouldn't have sent JC to give us the New T, (the clue is in the name)..
Jesus didn't care if anybody was born out of wedlock- "Whoever comes to me I'll never turn away"
PS- I was conceived out of wedlock and it was such a heinous social crime in those days that my panicking parents quickly had a shotgun wedding to cover it up.
Dunno if they discussed aborting me, but abortion was common in those days and their friends and neighbours would have probably thought "Oh well, it was for the best", and wouldn't have minded if they'd have aborted me, but I might have minded..

[Minimalist]

If God wanted us to stick with the Old T he wouldn't have sent JC to give us the New T, (the clue is in the name)..

That ain't what your fucking godboy said....allegedly.

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Matty 5:18

[Dropship]

I am an atheist and have been happily married for 22 years now.

Good for you mate, the only women i seemed to meet were a motley assortment of nuts and sluts, slags and bags, but I'm still looking..-
"A wife of noble character who can find?
She is worth far more than rubies.
Her husband has full confidence in her
and lacks nothing of value.
She brings him good, not harm,
all the days of her life" (Bible: Proverbs 31)

[Minimalist]

the only women i seemed to meet were a motley assortment of nuts and sluts, slags and bags,

Sounds as if they are not the problem.

[Dropship]

Your story about you not trying in school is pretty telling about your intellectual incapability here with these pathetic arguments you're presenting...

I didn't mind school subjects I liked such as Geography, English, Art and Science, but I detested useless stuff like Algebra because I couldn't see the point of it. I remember in one lesson when teech had given us an algebra equation to do, I whispered to my mate Sam- "Why do we have to do this algebra shit? What's it FOR?", but he simply replied "I ain't got a friggin clue why we have to do it, now shut up and just DO it or you'll get another caning!" 
But I could never wimpily toe the line like a good two-shoes and was eventually expelled and was glad to go, and have stayed a rebel all my life, here's my backup..
"Jesus saved you from the empty way of life handed you by your forefathers" (1 Peter1:18 )
"Don't conform to the pattern of this world" (Rom 12:2)
"Don't love the world or the things in it" (1 John 2:15-17)
"Set your mind on things above,not on things on the earth" (Col 3:2)
"You were bought at a price, don't serve men" (1 Cor 7:23)
"You were dead when you followed the ways of the world" (Eph 2:1/2)
"..this world...don't keep submitting to its rules" (Col 2:20)
Jesus said:-"You have one teacher, me" (Matt 23:10)

PS- Check out my rebellious arrogant body language in this sensational vid of me under my wargaming name 'Poor Old Spike', play fullscreen for maximum dramatic effect..

[Silver]

But I could never wimpily toe the line like a good two-shoes and was eventually expelled and was glad to go, and have stayed a rebel all my life, here's my backup..

I doubt you were expelled because you didn't want to do your Algebra homework. Therefore, why were you really expelled?

[Dropship]

All the other "thousands of competing figures" are in graves, but Jesus is not, spot the difference?

Got any proof for that claim (note: the bible itself is the claim, so quoting it is merely restating the assertion)?

The snooty priests and Romans could easily have debunked christianity by finding Jesus's body, but they never could because he was alive and well far away through the 'Jesus Stargate' just like he'd told people earlier-
"I know where I came from and where I am going, but you have no idea where I come from or where I am going " (John 8:14/ 8:23/10:38/Matt 13:35)
Maybe they should have sent out a probe..

STARGATE-THE MOVIE
[The probe moves up the ramp, then through the Stargate.]
SHORE -"The thing has locked itself onto a point somewhere in the Kaliam galaxy."
DANIEL- "Where are we on that map?"
CATHERINE- "That's right, Jackson. It's on the other side of the known universe"

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Got any proof for that claim (note: the bible itself is the claim, so quoting it is merely restating the assertion)?

Eh, I already called him out on that and never got an answer.

Sorry if I've missed any of your posts guys, but they're coming thick and fast, the answer to that one is that atheist books are the source for atheists assertions, so why shouldn't the bible be the source for christian assertions?..
PS- In my 15 years on the internet debating circuit I've gained a fearsome reputation for never dodging a question..-
How about it Rock?-
"C'mon, it's true, but that don't bother me, I just wanna prove somethin', I ain't no bum, it don't matter if I lose, don't matter if Dropship opens my head.
The only thing I wanna do is go the distance, that's all.
Nobody's ever gone fifteen rounds with Dropship. If I go them fifteen rounds, an' that bell rings an' I'm still standin', I'm gonna know then I weren't just another bum from the neighborhood"...

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..Ol' asshole Yahweh was so far "apart" that nobody could prove he didn't ever exist...

Guys, guys, I keep asking you exactly why  you don't like JC, was it something he said or did that ruffles your feathers?
When am I gonna get a straight answer around here?

[drfuzzy]

Steady on, that's only out-of-context Old Testament stuff!

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If God wanted us to stick with the Old T he wouldn't have sent JC to give us the New T, (the clue is in the name)..
Jesus didn't care if anybody was born out of wedlock- "Whoever comes to me I'll never turn away"
PS- I was conceived out of wedlock and it was such a heinous social crime in those days that my panicking parents quickly had a shotgun wedding to cover it up.
Dunno if they discussed aborting me, but abortion was common in those days and their friends and neighbours would have probably thought "Oh well, it was for the best", and wouldn't have minded if they'd have aborted me, but I might have minded..

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What Min said.  Matthew 5:18.  Right from your own book of repulsive genocidal 2000 year old fairy tales.  You sure keep splattering quotes from that monstrous compilation all over the place, as if they mean anything.  As I said many posts ago, the ridiculous old book proves less than nothing.  I could grab quotes from Harry Potter that would be more interesting and have more relevance.   If your imaginary friend exists and isn't utterly and completely impotent and incompetent, then have it show up and say "hi".  A creature that supposedly created billions of galaxies should be able to do that - particularly in an era where a 7-year-old can make a post on Facebook and have it traverse the globe.  No deity worth a second's notice needs a HUMAN BEING to speak FOR it.  



One piece of evidence.  One little itty bitty bit of proof.  People have been trying to find it for more than 2000 years without success.



Oh, and by the way, it was a political move.  Constantine was never christian.  He needed to get the leaders of a squabbling cult to agree on something, and he needed to find a way to control the squabbling cult.  



I've read the wholly babble cover to cover many times.  I was made to memorize it as a child.  That's how I know it's crap.

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Got any proof for that claim (note: the bible itself is the claim, so quoting it is merely restating the assertion)?

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The snooty priests and Romans could easily have debunked christianity by finding Jesus's body, but they never could because he was alive and well far away through the 'Jesus Stargate' just like he'd told people earlier-
"I know where I came from and where I am going, but you have no idea where I come from or where I am going " (John 8:14/ 8:23/10:38/Matt 13:35)
Maybe they should have sent out a probe..

STARGATE-THE MOVIE
[The probe moves up the ramp, then through the Stargate.]
SHORE -"The thing has locked itself onto a point somewhere in the Kaliam galaxy."
DANIEL- "Where are we on that map?"
CATHERINE- "That's right, Jackson. It's on the other side of the known universe"

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Eh, I already called him out on that and never got an answer.

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Sorry if I've missed any of your posts guys, but they're coming thick and fast, the answer to that one is that atheist books are the source for atheists assertions, so why shouldn't the bible be the source for christian assertions?..
PS- In my 15 years on the internet debating circuit I've gained a reputation for never dodging a question..-
How about it Rock?-
"C'mon, it's true, but that don't bother me, I just wanna prove somethin', I ain't no bum, it don't matter if I lose, don't matter if Dropship opens my head.
The only thing I wanna do is go the distance, that's all.
Nobody's ever gone fifteen rounds with Dropship. If I go them fifteen rounds, an' that bell rings an' I'm still standin', I'm gonna know then I weren't just another bum from the neighborhood"...

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..Ol' asshole Yahweh was so far "apart" that nobody could prove he didn't ever exist...

Guys, guys, I keep asking you exactly why  you don't like JC, was it something he said or did that ruffles your feathers?
When am I gonna get a straight answer around here?

Oh, I like some of the stuff ol' JC reportedly said, if he existed.  The taking care of your neighbor bit was cool, mostly because it called out selfishness, religious bigotry, thinking that you're "too good" to take care of lowly scum who aren't as holy as you are, all of that crap.  The hero of the story was somebody too lowly for a "righteous Jew" to speak to.  I like some of the stuff in the Buddhist writings, I like the book of the Tao, and Confucius is cool.  Mostly.

But "like" Jesus?  Jesus is dead, if he ever existed.  The concept is weird.  I like lots of fictional characters, but they have no impact on real life.  Just like Jesus.  The only problem is I don't have assholes getting in my face throwing fits that I don't LIKE Batman and quoting lines from comic books and movies as if they were important.

[Dropship]

If God wanted us to stick with the Old T he wouldn't have sent JC to give us the New T, (the clue is in the name)..

That ain't what your fucking godboy said....allegedly.

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Matty 5:18

JC TRASHED the harshness of the Old T by superimposing an enlightened approach on it,  and people quicky cottoned on..-

"Jesus saved you from the empty way of life handed you by your forefathers" (1 Peter 1:18 )
"In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent." (Acts 17:30)
"The covenant of which Jesus is mediator is superior to the old one" (Heb 8:6)
"Through Jesus we are saved,and not through Moses" (Acts 13:39)