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Political ideology
#11
RE: Political ideology
Especially if you throw in humanism.
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#12
RE: Political ideology
Fake Messiah Wrote:Well perhaps it's not the -ism but the fact that people don't obey the rules. I mean communism works on paper but as it goes few people take most of the money, live in palaces and sometimes starve the population.
Or capitalism could work but again you have monopoly, centralism (why can't workers own the plant they work in?) bribes, lobbying.

In America, workers can own the plant they work in. It just hasn't really caught on.
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#13
RE: Political ideology
(July 21, 2017 at 10:50 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:
Fake Messiah Wrote:Well perhaps it's not the -ism but the fact that people don't obey the rules. I mean communism works on paper but as it goes few people take most of the money, live in palaces and sometimes starve the population.
Or capitalism could work but again you have monopoly, centralism (why can't workers own the plant they work in?) bribes, lobbying.

In America, workers can own the plant they work in. It just hasn't really caught on.

I think Hot Dog on a Stick is employee-owned...
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#14
RE: Political ideology
Industrial feudalism.


Unfortunately no one is trying it now.
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#15
RE: Political ideology
Quote:Capitalism and human rights.

For the life of me I can't figure out why you equate the two.


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#16
RE: Political ideology
(July 21, 2017 at 4:49 am)Interaktive Wrote: Which ideology is better?
Capitalism and human rights.
Communism and non-exclusion of working people.
Nazism and humanism towards the Germans.
What is the difference, to be under the power of the dollar, the power of Germany or the authority of the CPSU Central Committee?
It seems to me no.

Capitalism is ultimately incompatible with human righs, because capitalism is about the removal of fetters on what the owners of capital can do.

Communism died some time between 1917 and 1921, Naziism died in May of 1945, so neither ideology is currently relevant. An ideal socitey though would likely follow one of the schools of socialism, but that would require a humanity much more evolved than currently. So as is the best kind of society is one with a strong goverment able and willing to curb humanities worst excesses working on democratic principles (i.e. along the lines of the post-war social democratic ascendancy).
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RE: Political ideology
(July 21, 2017 at 4:49 am)Interaktive Wrote: Which ideology is better?
Capitalism and human rights.
Communism and non-exclusion of working people.
Nazism and humanism towards the Germans.
What is the difference, to be under the power of the dollar, the power of Germany or the authority of the CPSU Central Committee?
It seems to me no.

You're aware of the fact that communism never was and this is appellation wrongly used? You know that Brezhnev decided that really existing socialism was good enough and there is no need for trying to achieve Marxist utopia of communism? If not then I recommend Andrzej Walicki From the Communist Project to the Neoliberal Utopia. Also ever heard of marxism-leninism crimes? Word Holodomor ring any bells?

As for nazism - if you finished school then you should know what was wrong with it.

You're asking what is the difference in being subjected to the power of dollar and rest. It start with m, as in mass murder if not genocide (as there are differing opinions in regard to Holodomor).
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