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Styx and stones well just Styx......
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RE: Styx and stones well just Styx......
(August 5, 2017 at 11:41 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(August 4, 2017 at 4:03 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: First ABBA and now Styx? You're killin' me, dude. This penchant for schmaltz!

I'll give anyone 3-1 that Brian also likes Celine Dion.

And you would lose that bet. I don't hate her, but I am not into her music.


And what would be wrong with someone liking Celine Dion? My Redneck friend from Oklahoma loves her. I don't listen to her music but some people do.

Not obligated to only like what you like.

I'm thinking you have a busted humor detector.

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RE: Styx and stones well just Styx......
(August 5, 2017 at 11:47 am)popeyespappy Wrote:
(August 5, 2017 at 11:41 am)Brian37 Wrote: My Redneck friend from Oklahoma loves her.

How is HBA doing these days, Brian?

This thread does bring up an interesting point though. Can anyone draw lines between blues rock, hard rock, and metal? Sure some stuff is obviously blues rock, but hard rock has a lot of blues influence. The line between hard rock and metal can be pretty fuzzy sometimes too. Can one of our more musically inclined members come up with a clear difference between these genres?

I didn't realize you knew him. We've been friends since 01. I was just on skype talking to him. He came to visit me in June to help me spread my mom's ashes in the ocean. He's doing fine. He is working in a deli, trying to pay off his college loans. 

But as far as music goes. The average non musician fan of a big artist can be very "us vs them" just like "Ford vs Chevy". But the truth is with most big world famous artists of any type of genres, if you were to look at their music libraries you'd find more often than not they have a wide variety of influences. 

Back when I was a kid, I used to switch my likes to fit in. If someone told me what I liked sucked, I would have been more tempted to never speak of what I liked or even ditch it. I am way beyond giving a fuck about what people think of my musical tastes. I like what I like and it is a variety.
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#13
RE: Styx and stones well just Styx......
(August 5, 2017 at 11:47 am)popeyespappy Wrote:
(August 5, 2017 at 11:41 am)Brian37 Wrote: My Redneck friend from Oklahoma loves her.

How is HBA doing these days, Brian?

This thread does bring up an interesting point though. Can anyone draw lines between blues rock, hard rock, and metal? Sure some stuff is obviously blues rock, but hard rock has a lot of blues influence. The line between hard rock and metal can be pretty fuzzy sometimes too. Can one of our more musically inclined members come up with a clear difference between these genres?

Having played all these genres, I'll be happy to give my opinion when I'm home on my laptop.

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RE: Styx and stones well just Styx......
(August 5, 2017 at 12:09 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(August 5, 2017 at 11:47 am)popeyespappy Wrote: How is HBA doing these days, Brian?

This thread does bring up an interesting point though. Can anyone draw lines between blues rock, hard rock, and metal? Sure some stuff is obviously blues rock, but hard rock has a lot of blues influence. The line between hard rock and metal can be pretty fuzzy sometimes too. Can one of our more musically inclined members come up with a clear difference between these genres?

I didn't realize you knew him. We've been friends since 01. I was just on skype talking to him. He came to visit me in June to help me spread my mom's ashes in the ocean. He's doing fine. He is working in a deli, trying to pay off his college loans. 

Just from the old days on .com. I still remember him losing his cowboy hat on a windy mountain side while he was still in Colorado. I'm sure it wasn't very funny to him at the time, but I lol'd when he told the story of watching it fly off into the sunset.

(August 5, 2017 at 12:22 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Having played all these genres, I'll be happy to give my opinion when I'm home on my laptop.

That would be appreciated. Feedback from musicians was what I was hoping for when I asked the question.
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RE: Styx and stones well just Styx......
I am going with the Stones. Why? Because "I'm a monkay, I'm a monkay!" I know you are a monkay too!
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RE: Styx and stones well just Styx......
(August 5, 2017 at 12:22 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(August 5, 2017 at 11:47 am)popeyespappy Wrote: How is HBA doing these days, Brian?

This thread does bring up an interesting point though. Can anyone draw lines between blues rock, hard rock, and metal? Sure some stuff is obviously blues rock, but hard rock has a lot of blues influence. The line between hard rock and metal can be pretty fuzzy sometimes too. Can one of our more musically inclined members come up with a clear difference between these genres?

Having played all these genres, I'll be happy to give my opinion when I'm home on my laptop.

Blues rock is rock played with blues tonalities, but with a more-varied songwriting structure, often including bridges, codas, etc which are very rare in blues. It has obviously more energy than many blues artists throw down -- but others like Stevie Ray or Buddy Guy certainly like playing their blues with rock energy. What defines them as mainly blues in my book at this point is song-writing structure (because they're basically writing in 12-bar blues format, or more rarely, 8-). When I think of blues-rock, I think of bands like Cactus, early Zeppelin, or Foghat, stuff like that.

Hard rock may be blues-based (think Cream, Zeppelin, Hendrix) but it need not be so -- UFO, Thin Lizzy, Molly Hatchet and many other bands show a pretty diverse set of influences. Cream obviously updated blues classics, and supercharged them with rock's energy. Sometimes the result barely sounds like the original at all (I'm thinking of "Crossroads Blues", covered by Cream as "Crossroads"). Note that there's a bit of overlap between "blues rock" and "hard rock". A band like Cactus could be, and was, considered both, depending on who you asked.


Heavy metal is only rarely blues-based. Its riffs may be based on the pentatonic scale (early Sabbath did this a lot, often throwing in the b5 which is also a blues motif to give their songs that evil vibe), but metal too generally has a broader array of influences, especially in incorporating classical music into its palette. Metal is usually played at tempos significantly faster or slower than the other two genres we're discussing. Lyrically speaking, metal often addresses a wider array of topics than the other two genres, anywhere from fantasy to the occult to railing against what they see as society's flaws.

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