This Is An Interesting Question

[Thumpalumpacus]

The Internet is much more than the worldwide web.

Try again.

But you would not have a modern internet without it

Benny's argument was this site and our communication would not exist if America had not invented the internet .

I'm pretty a world wide net would be needed for both. At least in it's current form

Could we at least agree on that ?

I also point out that we go over Arpanet's components and their components and trace them back to none American Origins . But that would render all inventions on nationalistic lines absurd . Maybe we should all just agree that everything is Primate.

The internet existed before the www. It was civilianized before then as well. Calling it a British invention is silly. The www is the refinement. The guy who invented the automatic transmission doesn't get credit for inventing the automobile as well.

ETA: Both the solid-state and integrated circuit were American inventions as well, iirc.

[Amarok]

But you would not have a modern internet without it

Benny's argument was this site and our communication would not exist if America had not invented the internet .

I'm pretty a world wide net would be needed for both. At least in it's current form

Could we at least agree on that ?

I also point out that we go over Arpanet's components and their components and trace them back to none American Origins . But that would render all inventions on nationalistic lines absurd . Maybe we should all just agree that everything is Primate.

The internet existed before the www. It was civilianized before then as well. Calling it a British invention is silly. The www is the refinement. The guy who invented the automatic transmission doesn't get credit for inventing the automobile as well.

ETA: Both the solid-state and integrated circuit were American inventions as well, iirc.

Well .

The idea of integrating electronic circuits into a single device was born when the German physicist and engineer Werner Jacobi (de) developed and patented the first known integrated transistor amplifier in 1949 and the British radio engineer Geoffrey Dummer proposed to integrate a variety of standard electronic components in a monolithic semiconductor crystal in 1952. A year later, Harwick Johnson filed a patent for a prototype integrated circuit (IC).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invention_...ed_circuit

The ARPAnet opened in 1969 and was quickly usurped by civilian computer nerds who had now found a way to share the few great computers that existed at that time.

Father of the Internet Tim Berners-Lee

Tim Berners-Lee was the man leading the development of the World Wide Web (with help of course), the defining of HTML (hypertext markup language) used to create web pages, HTTP (HyperText Transfer Protocol) and URLs (Universal Resource Locators). All of those developments took place between 1989 and 1991.

https://www.thoughtco.com/history-of-the...et-1992007

first solid-state device was the "cat's whisker" detector, first used in 1906 radio receivers.[7] A whisker-like wire is placed lightly in contact with a solid crystal (such as a germanium crystal) in order to detect a radio signal by the contact junction effect.[8] The solid-state device came into its own with the invention of the transistor in 1947

Karl Ferdinand Braun (6 June 1850 – 20 April 1918) was a German inventor, physicist and Nobel laureate in physics. Braun contributed significantly to the development of radio and television technology: he shared with Guglielmo Marconi the 1909 Nobel Prize in Physics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state_electronics

But as I said in my final comment .All this itself had components that had components so even my counter points are moot . And as I said that comment was in response to the idea we would not have this site if America had not invented the internet . Does or does this site use WWW. or not?

[Catholic_Lady]

Winning WWII and defeating Hitler. MacArthur saving the day in Korea with a brilliant military strategy, preserving at least some of the country for a capitalist and eventually democratic government which we consider a big step up from N. Korea.

Other than that, practically the entire modern industrial and electronic world that we live in was created by America. We are using about 20 American inventions right now in just communicating our ideas online. And that's not a trivial contribution. It deserves to be called a great contribution, and at least in these senses, America fully deserves the title "great."

I think this is a case of "What have you done for me lately?" Will, in Bill Maher's case, the technology and freedoms afforded by American ingenuity and the constitution have allowed a political comedian to become super famous and earn many millions of American dollars.

Amazing post. As an immigrant from South America, I am so incredibly grateful to be here.

[Minimalist]

I resist the notion that "greatness" is solely dependent on military power.

That would have made the Mongols the Greatest Nation ever.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_Emp...s_policies\

The Mongol Empire existed during the 13th and 14th centuries and was the largest contiguous land empire in history.

There is more to Greatness than a big furry hat.

[Thumpalumpacus]

The internet existed before the www. It was civilianized before then as well. Calling it a British invention is silly. The www is the refinement. The guy who invented the automatic transmission doesn't get credit for inventing the automobile as well.

ETA: Both the solid-state and integrated circuit were American inventions as well, iirc.

Well .

The idea of integrating electronic circuits into a single device was born when the German physicist and engineer Werner Jacobi (de) developed and patented the first known integrated transistor amplifier in 1949 and the British radio engineer Geoffrey Dummer proposed to integrate a variety of standard electronic components in a monolithic semiconductor crystal in 1952. A year later, Harwick Johnson filed a patent for a prototype integrated circuit (IC).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invention_...ed_circuit

The ARPAnet opened in 1969 and was quickly usurped by civilian computer nerds who had now found a way to share the few great computers that existed at that time.

Father of the Internet Tim Berners-Lee

Tim Berners-Lee was the man leading the development of the World Wide Web (with help of course), the defining of HTML (hypertext markup language) used to create web pages, HTTP (HyperText Transfer Protocol) and URLs (Universal Resource Locators). All of those developments took place between 1989 and 1991.

https://www.thoughtco.com/history-of-the...et-1992007

first solid-state device was the "cat's whisker" detector, first used in 1906 radio receivers.[7] A whisker-like wire is placed lightly in contact with a solid crystal (such as a germanium crystal) in order to detect a radio signal by the contact junction effect.[8] The solid-state device came into its own with the invention of the transistor in 1947

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state_electronics

But as I said in my final comment .All this itself had components that had components so even my counter points are moot . And as I said that comment was in response to the idea we would not have this site if America had not invented the internet . Does or does this site use WWW. or not?

I stand corrected on the first point (hence the "iirc" in my post) -- however, a solid-state amplifier is a far cry from any computer. Your second link only supports what I'm saying. In the third, I was referring to the computer-useful transistor, and I should have been more specific. The solid-state stuff patented in the 20s was neither useful in any immediate sense, nor are they used in data processing:

Having unearthed Lilienfeld’s patents that went into obscurity years earlier, lawyers at Bell Labs advised against Shockley's proposal because the idea of a field-effect transistor that used an electric field as a "grid" was not new. Instead, what Bardeen, Brattain, and Shockley invented in 1947 was the first point-contact transistor.[10] In acknowledgement of this accomplishment, Shockley, Bardeen, and Brattain were jointly awarded the 1956 Nobel Prize in Physics "for their researches on semiconductors and their discovery of the transistor effect".[16]

Your hard-on against crediting Americans is duly noted.