Thoughts

[KevinM1]

What else did you expect?

Very few come for honest debate.

Or to even understand atheism/atheists honestly.

[JackRussell]

I came to sharp turn in the road a couple of months ago and haven't posted anything here since then and probably won't for a while.  I have a different outlook on things and have lost some passions I had and gained some others.  I spent 3 1/2 years in this forum defending and expounding on theism and christianity and I don't know that I changed the mind of any atheist.  Hopefully, I convinced some visitors who were on the edge to stay with their faith.  You never really know because there's no feedback.  I know that there's good stuff that comes from the discussion here, but I've lost my desire to continue for now.  I've seen numerous people who have shown up at our church's food distribution or meals and then show up at the worship services down the road.  It seems that actions get people's attention and when they become interested in your faith they come to you. Then they are ready to listen to what you have to say.

I have benefited personally from this forum.  I wanted to get hit with every argument against my faith that is out there and you atheists were all too happy to accommodate me in that regard.  In fact, my butt is still smoking, but I've matured because of it.  I've actually become able to look at issues from different sides.  I can understand why so many atheists left christianity and can understand the way they think.  I now believe in the evolutionary process; it doesn't negate the need for God.  Though I disagree with their sexual morality, I support equal rights for homosexuals because we're all citizens and equal under the law no matter what our faith or lack of it.  I can also understand the anxiety that transsexuals experience day to day.  We don't have to agree on everything in order to come together to create a better society.

I can't say that I like every person that I've come in contact with here, and not everybody likes me, but for the most part we've had civilized and respectful discussions.  Oh well, I try to be liked, but I gotta be me.  Anyone who makes an impact won't be liked by everybody.

I'll finish by saying that as an American I observe that the christian church in America has in large part strayed from the church that Christ founded and is in need of reform.  But it seems that as church congregations shrink, those left behind are the true believers that are going to bring the church back to its roots and the world will again see God through them.  To that end, I intend to use the time that I would have spent in this forum to do God's work for the people around me.  Maybe they'll see God at work, and if thy ask me about him then I'll tell them about him.

 God be with you Lek, look for His purpose and stay on the path.

Love in Christ,

GC

Always good to have a science denying hick on your side.

Glad their is no god to be disappointed in you.

GC has some reading to do before I know he's honest.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/

[Shell B]

What else did you expect?

Very few come for honest debate.

I didn't expect anything. I'm pretty sure I've never noticed this person until this very post.

[ignoramus]

It's fascinating to see christer mating rituals in the wild.  

So, I have a question.  Given that christianity has been/needed to be "going back to it's roots" for pretty much the entirety of the last century...particularly in the US, how much soil do you reckon is still at the base of that tree?  Additionally, if it was ever going to help, after all that time going back to whatever roots any of you imagine...why hasn't it?

They dig and dig to find the very core to the tree of divinity and they find a jack-in-the-box instead?
Because the whole concept of organised religion was built on control via self deception.

Get over it theists. Jesus H Christ.

[Jehanne]

I'll finish by saying that as an American I observe that the christian church in America has in large part strayed from the church that Christ founded and is in need of reform.  But it seems that as church congregations shrink, those left behind are the true believers that are going to bring the church back to its roots and the world will again see God through them.  To that end, I intend to use the time that I would have spent in this forum to do God's work for the people around me.  Maybe they'll see God at work, and if thy ask me about him then I'll tell them about him.

Jesus did not found a church; you need to get over that.  He was a Jewish apocalyptic preacher who was born in northern Galilee who preached the end of the World, and with it, the end of Roman occupation.  He was 100% Jewish, and his message was 100% Jewish.  He did not believe himself to be divine, let alone God, or the son of god, nor did he perform any miracles, and no one even claimed that on his behalf.  Eventually, some of his followers convinced him to take his message to Jerusalem.  After arriving, an altercation happened in the Temple and Jesus was arrested.  The Romans interrogated him and after a brief consultation with the Jewish authorities (Roman federalism), the Romans executed Jesus, burying his body in a mass grave.

[Godscreated]

 God be with you Lek, look for His purpose and stay on the path.

Love in Christ,

GC

Always good to have a science denying hick on your side.

Glad their is no god to be disappointed in you.

GC has some reading to do before I know he's honest.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/

None of that is proof of evolution, you do not even understand the science you think is real.

[Crossless2.0]

Always good to have a science denying hick on your side.

Glad their is no god to be disappointed in you.

GC has some reading to do before I know he's honest.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/

None of that is proof of evolution, you do not even understand the science you think is real.

Actually, none of that is . . . anything you've ever bothered reading.

But what the hell. Enlighten us. In broad strokes, what is the theory of evolution?

[Minimalist]

But it seems that as church congregations shrink, those left behind are the true believers that are going to bring the church back to its roots and the world will again see God through them.

Actually, demographics suggest that the ones left behind are the old fucks who are too indoctrinated to leave.

[Amarok]

None of that is proof of evolution, you do not even understand the science you think is real.

Says the idiot that didn't refute any of it.

[Godscreated]

None of that is proof of evolution, you do not even understand the science you think is real.

Actually, none of that is . . . anything you've ever bothered reading.

But what the hell. Enlighten us. In broad strokes, what is the theory of evolution?

I've read it, unlike you I look at opposing arguments. That's called studying, something it seems you want do. You trust in your evolutionary science gods to tell you what to believe and never question they could be wrong, where is that critical thinking atheist chairish. Short but true evolutionary science definition, bunk.

GC

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None of that is proof of evolution, you do not even understand the science you think is real.

Says the idiot that didn't refute any of it.

It's bunk it refutes itself if one uses critical thinking.