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[Crossless2.0]

Actually, none of that is . . . anything you've ever bothered reading.

But what the hell. Enlighten us. In broad strokes, what is the theory of evolution?

I've read it, unlike you I look at opposing arguments. That's called studying, something it seems you want do. You trust in your evolutionary science gods to tell you what to believe and never question they could be wrong, where is that critical thinking atheist chairish. Short but true evolutionary science definition, bunk.

GC

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Says the idiot that didn't refute any of it.

It's bunk it refutes itself if one uses critical thinking.

Ok, so what is the theory and how is it self-refuting?

[Minimalist]

I've read it, unlike you I look at opposing arguments. That's called studying, something it seems you want do. You trust in your evolutionary science gods to tell you what to believe and never question they could be wrong, where is that critical thinking atheist chairish. Short but true evolutionary science definition, bunk.

GC

You keep that up and you are going to give other astonishing idiots a bad name.

[Crossless2.0]

I've read it, unlike you I look at opposing arguments. That's called studying, something it seems you want do. You trust in your evolutionary science gods to tell you what to believe and never question they could be wrong, where is that critical thinking atheist chairish. Short but true evolutionary science definition, bunk.

GC

You keep that up and you are going to give other astonishing idiots a bad name.

Oh, we've been down this road before. As you would expect of a cultist, anyone who disagrees with him and is persuaded by the evidence for the theory has faith in 'science gods'. Then he assures us he really understands the theory without deigning to explain his 'understanding'. Then comes blanket dismissal of what he claims to understand without bothering to explain why he thinks it fails.

And if we're lucky he'll tell us again about the nuclear physicist in his church who also doesn't understand biological theory.  

[Catholic_Lady]

Best of luck with everything, Lek. If you decide to come back sometime, I'm sure you will be welcomed.

[Astonished]

I came to sharp turn in the road a couple of months ago and haven't posted anything here since then and probably won't for a while.  I have a different outlook on things and have lost some passions I had and gained some others.  I spent 3 1/2 years in this forum defending and expounding on theism and christianity and I don't know that I changed the mind of any atheist.  Hopefully, I convinced some visitors who were on the edge to stay with their faith.  You never really know because there's no feedback.  I know that there's good stuff that comes from the discussion here, but I've lost my desire to continue for now.  I've seen numerous people who have shown up at our church's food distribution or meals and then show up at the worship services down the road.  It seems that actions get people's attention and when they become interested in your faith they come to you. Then they are ready to listen to what you have to say.

If they happen to be atheists who are still woo-believers then who knows, their defective minds might be swayed. That's why it's such useless label. I'd be impressed if you convinced a rational skeptic. But that would take a miracle, and well...those don't exist.
Also convincing someone to stay in their faith is like convincing a slave not to cast off their chains and reject their enslavement. Really, REALLY not something to be proud of, kid. And of course when you offer incentives like free food and community, people will show up. It's one of the unfair advantages religion has, that it's the majority of the population and has so much access to ill-gotten resources. Again, nothing to be proud of. That's emotionally manipulative and predatory. The only way you can actually bring anyone to your side, attacking the vulnerable when they can't defend against your bullshit and luring them in with lies.

I have benefited personally from this forum.  I wanted to get hit with every argument against my faith that is out there and you atheists were all too happy to accommodate me in that regard.  In fact, my butt is still smoking, but I've matured because of it.  I've actually become able to look at issues from different sides.  I can understand why so many atheists left christianity and can understand the way they think.  I now believe in the evolutionary process; it doesn't negate the need for God.  Though I disagree with their sexual morality, I support equal rights for homosexuals because we're all citizens and equal under the law no matter what our faith or lack of it.  I can also understand the anxiety that transsexuals experience day to day.  We don't have to agree on everything in order to come together to create a better society.

If you weren't emancipated from your delusions, that's not a benefit. Your definitions are skewed but what else is new? You pretend to look at things from different sides but you're still a homophobe, you've just graduated to not being a bigot too. Don't pat yourself on the back til you rid your mind of the poison causing you to think there's anything wrong with what other people do that harms no one. And while evolution may not negate the need for a god it does negate every historical myth regarding creation and whatnot, so regardless of your interpretation of whatever holy book you cherry-pick, you're still wrong and are being willfully dishonest not to acknowledge and admit this. So you're a bald-faced liar, but you want to condemn homosexuals for perceived immoral behavior? Fuck the fuck off, pissant. Your toxic beliefs are what are keeping society from getting better, dipshit. Read a fucking book other than something that holds boiling a goat in its mother's milk as a greater offense than rape.

I can't say that I like every person that I've come in contact with here, and not everybody likes me, but for the most part we've had civilized and respectful discussions.  Oh well, I try to be liked, but I gotta be me.  Anyone who makes an impact won't be liked by everybody.

I'll finish by saying that as an American I observe that the christian church in America has in large part strayed from the church that Christ founded and is in need of reform.  But it seems that as church congregations shrink, those left behind are the true believers that are going to bring the church back to its roots and the world will again see God through them.  To that end, I intend to use the time that I would have spent in this forum to do God's work for the people around me.  Maybe they'll see God at work, and if thy ask me about him then I'll tell them about him.

Feeling's mutual, prick. You want respect? Stop being dishonest. That's a good way to start. Hitler had a big impact on people; sure you want to use that analogy?

Fuck off with that reform bullshit. Did you never even open your damn holy book? You can't reform something built on a foundation of complete and utter shit. There's no good to stray from, it's all fucking bad, rookie. You weren't even worth this rant. Good riddance.

[JackRussell]

Always good to have a science denying hick on your side.

Glad their is no god to be disappointed in you.

GC has some reading to do before I know he's honest.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/

None of that is proof of evolution, you do not even understand the science you think is real.

I think I must be psychic, I am sure I said elsewhere that creationists always deny this without clearly ever having read it.

If you don't think I understand the science, please show me the flaws in the article so we can discuss them. And I can assure you I have read a lot more than read just Theobald. Might even invite my sister here, with her PhD in Genetics. But then, she's a woman, what the fuck would she know about science.

You haven't studied shit, just swallowed it.

[Jehanne]

Always good to have a science denying hick on your side.

Glad their is no god to be disappointed in you.

GC has some reading to do before I know he's honest.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/

None of that is proof of evolution, you do not even understand the science you think is real.

Evolution = Descent with Modification.  What is there to understand that does not involve the many complexities and nuances of Science?  The concept of evolution is straightforward.

[Minimalist]

Not to a shithead like, G-C.  He really thinks his fucking god played in the dirt and created man.  He really is a bible-thumping retard.  He is not just playing one on TV.

[Ravenshire]

Always good to have a science denying hick on your side.

Glad their is no god to be disappointed in you.

GC has some reading to do before I know he's honest.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/

None of that is proof of evolution, you do not even understand the science you think is real.

You say that like you actually know something about it.

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It's bunk it refutes itself if one uses critical thinking.

How the fuck would you know anything about critical thinking?

[Harry Nevis]

Always good to have a science denying hick on your side.

Glad their is no god to be disappointed in you.

GC has some reading to do before I know he's honest.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/

None of that is proof of evolution, you do not even understand the science you think is real.

And if you think that science says they have "proof" of evolution, you show that you don't have the basic comprehension of science to school anybody on the subject.

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Actually, none of that is . . . anything you've ever bothered reading.

But what the hell. Enlighten us. In broad strokes, what is the theory of evolution?

I've read it, unlike you I look at opposing arguments. That's called studying, something it seems you want do. You trust in your evolutionary science gods to tell you what to believe and never question they could be wrong, where is that critical thinking atheist chairish. Short but true evolutionary science definition, bunk.

GC

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Lying for jesus again, huh?  I welcome serious challenges to ANY scientific theory.  It does nothing but expand our knowledge.  See, thinking people don't have such an emotional investment in what piece of knowledge is right or wrong.  You don't study.  You only read what supports your fairy tale and what denigrates everyone else's knowledge and beliefs.  Everything that you post about evolution shows that you got your "knowledge" from AIG and the like.  You should be embarrassed, and the fact you're not shows how dishonest you are with yourself and others.