What is the controversy surrounding #takeaknee

[LadyForCamus]

Oh, I'll be on the edge of my seat. 😘


I know it hurts when people point out your bad reasoning.  It's okay. 😏

Hey LFC, sweetie, how do you make those awesome emoticons? I used to use the Tapatalk codes you used because they were awesome emoticons but they stopped working. Now you are using emoticons but when I quote you it doesn't show the code.

I'm guessing it's Unicode. Which I can never get to work

They are straight from my iPhone!

[Edwardo Piet]

Why is it always racist people who refer to black people as 'blacks'?

Hmm. I guess it's kind of like how homophobes refer to gay people as 'the gays'.

This is  nonsense. I use the term "blacks" myself. You want to call me racist? Every black person I've talked to about indicates that they're fine with it. I'll take their word over yours.

It seems it's a lot more common than I thought it was. I guess it's just a British thing.

We say 'black' or 'black people' all the time over here. But we don't say 'blacks'. It must be an acceptable term in America.

There are also some fucking idiots up here in the north of England who think that even saying 'black' or 'black people' is racist... and they actually react offended and tell me not to say that and say I should say "colored"... LOL. Colored is a racist slur.

So weird how it depends on where you live sometimes.

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Hey LFC, sweetie, how do you make those awesome emoticons? I used to use the Tapatalk codes you used because they were awesome emoticons but they stopped working. Now you are using emoticons but when I quote you it doesn't show the code.

I'm guessing it's Unicode. Which I can never get to work

They are straight from my iPhone!

I'm so jealous.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Hams, I read your explanation and edited the post in question. Apologies for my part in the misunderstanding.

[Edwardo Piet]

Nothing to apologize for my friend. I felt like a fucking idiot when Alpha quoted a bunch of people saying 'blacks' in the thread. And I was like in my head "Huh. Oh it's just a normal term then."

Of course I had to giggle that Alpha made such a big deal out of it and went on quoting for several posts. He's the true idiot here. I was just ignorant. And not willfully so. Unlike him. Feels like Huggy with his Denmark. Making a big deal out of one nitpick. Sure I called him a racist repeatedly... but it's just a hunch and an honest belief. I bet he totally is

Also, I've learned something today and am glad of it and I admit I was wrong about something.... you don't see people like Alpha doing that

[Thumpalumpacus]

One can be racist with perfectly genteel language is the takeaway from this thread.

[Edwardo Piet]

Us Brits are weird. I've never heard ONE British person say 'blacks' but I've heard them say 'black people' repeatedly. I say 'black people'. We don't tend to say 'gays' either but we say 'gay people'. If I were to say 'gays' or 'blacks' I'd probably get called a homophobe or racist unless the person I was talking to was themselves homophobic or racist.

So to anyone who thinks that political correctness has gone mad in America: it's pretty mad over here too.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Us Brits are weird. I've never heard ONE British person say 'blacks' but I've heard them say 'black people' repeatedly. I say 'black people'. We don't tend to say 'gays' either but we say 'gay people'. If I were to say 'gays' or 'blacks' I'd probably get called a homophobe or racist unless the person I was talking to was themselves homophobic or racist.

So to anyone who thinks that political correctness has gone mad in America: it's pretty mad over here too.

There are folks here who regard "black/blacks/black people" as antiquated and borderline-racist, to be sure. I don't give a damn, though, mainly because they're non-black PC warriors looking for an edge, any edge, from which they might look down upon others.

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It is not just schools. It is economics at it's core, for both poor urban blacks and poor rural whites. If the top 1% and the religious right can use politics to divide the races and classes that keeps everyone divided and desperate, corporations keep their cheap labor, the entire country keeps having to compensate for what the rich don't pay which ends up in another econmic bubble. Race and class are how the GOP divide.

It's not just schools, which is what I said. The issues are interlocking and self-reinforcing. Schools are funded by property taxes, meaning that schools in poor neighborhoods are inadequately funded due to low property values. The children educated in those schools come from poor households, meaning something as simple as steady nourishment is not a given. They also have bleaker job prospects, and tend to wind up with lower-paying jobs, which means that they have a harder time escaping the neighborhood. It also means they're more prone to criminality, and single-parent households, which also tends to result in lower incomes. That means they're more likely to stay where they are, enduring poverty because the father's in the "justice" system and mom has to raise the children alone ... lather, rinse, repeat.

[LadyForCamus]

This ^^^

[Athene]

Blacks, at 13% of the population, commit about half of all murders. You can draw your own conclusions.

Blacks at 13% of the population, also account for 47% of wrongful convictions, according to a recent report by the National Registry of Exonerations.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/07/politics/b...index.html

What conclusions do you draw from that?

[LadyForCamus]

Blacks, at 13% of the population, commit about half of all murders. You can draw your own conclusions.

Blacks at 13% of the population, also account for 47% of wrongful convictions, according to a recent report by the National Registry of Exonerations.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/07/politics/b...index.html

What conclusions do you draw from that?

That the cops were just, 'erring on the side of caution,' lol.