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Thoughts on Hell?
RE: Thoughts on Hell?
Sheer fantasy, G-C.  You remind me of a ball player who hits a home run and points at the sky.

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I got where I am in life with no help from any stupid fucking god.  And so did you.
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RE: Thoughts on Hell?
(October 19, 2017 at 1:18 am)Godscreated Wrote: I live a very good life because of my relationship with the perfect God. Seeing how He is perfect there is no need in me accepting anything else and every reason for me to stand firm. I believe you can't stand the way I live because so much uncertainty is not a part of my life like it is yours.

Uncertainty is wonderful.  It's the motor that drives the imagination and it makes life exciting and worthwhile.  Your life sounds dreadfully boring, and I would never trade my life for yours.
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RE: Thoughts on Hell?
(October 13, 2017 at 9:21 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(October 13, 2017 at 3:42 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Knowing what choice one will make does not equate to making the choice for them.

Lol, if your god knows what choice I will make, how can I go against it without falsifying his omniscience?

No answer, eh? Big surprise, there.

(October 17, 2017 at 3:20 am)Godscreated Wrote:
(October 14, 2017 at 12:08 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Pretty sure your little god invented sin by defining right and wrong behaviors.

 Sin has to be committed, it's not just hanging around. God doesn't define sin, sin is action contrary to who God is, this was so before creation.

GC

[bolding added -- Thump]

So sin is outside your god's purview? Your god didn't create everything? He doesn't make the rules, he only plays by them?

Here, you're gonna need this:

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You've just asserted that your god's rules weren't made by him.

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RE: Thoughts on Hell?
(October 19, 2017 at 12:30 am)Huggy74 Wrote:
(October 18, 2017 at 3:12 pm)Harry Nevis Wrote: The god part, dumb-ass.

You have supporting evidence?

Reality is the supporting evidence.
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing."  - Samuel Porter Putnam
 
           

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RE: Thoughts on Hell?
Godscreated Wrote:
Mister Agenda Wrote:Willful ignorance is not a crime, it's a particularly appalling mistake.

The atheist here are guilty of the willful ignorance and this willful act comes with dire consequences.

Unsupported claim on both counts. As was the accusation that atheists here consider willful ignorance criminal. Is lying, particularly bearing false witness, not a sin in your opinion?

Godscreated Wrote:
Mr. Agenda Wrote:I've read the Bible cover-to-cover twice, some parts more times than I can remember. I answered the question for myself: no way an omniscient being is behind that Iron Age work of mythology and tradition with a little history sprinkled in. It's got some decent poetry and literature in parts.

If that continues to be your belief it will lead to an eternal punishment. At judgement you will have no excuses.

Do you know what argument ad baculum is, and why it's fallacious?

Godscreated Wrote:What you did is against forum rules you used a post from pocaracas that came after the quote you used of mine. This is as dishonest as it comes and it seems to be a good representation of how low some atheist will go to win kudos from his fellow atheist. It also shows how dumb the who gave you kudos really is. This tactic is beyond shameful it is a deliberate attack upon another.
Mr. Agenda Wrote:Which forum rule is that against? I may need a refresher. How is it dishonest?
Godscreated Wrote:Surely you are not serious, it's wrong in every way imaginable. I did not give that response to that particular post, that entire thing was fabricated from to different post and use as if I were the one who wrote that particular reply to that specific post. A lie is what it is and I have seen that done in the past and someone stated it was against forum rules to post an answer for someone else. It was done to deliberately misrepresent what I might have answered. Another's opinion of what I would have answered doesn't in the least mean I would have given that answer. If you can't see the dishonesty in that kind of behavior then you need to question your understanding of truth.
GC

The lie is clearly in your accusation rather than the post you are slandering. Are you having some sort of brain event?

Astreja Wrote:
Godscreated Wrote:I live a very good life because of my relationship with the perfect God. Seeing how He is perfect there is no need in me accepting anything else and every reason for me to stand firm. I believe you can't stand the way I live because so much uncertainty is not a part of my life like it is yours.

Uncertainty is wonderful.  It's the motor that drives the imagination and it makes life exciting and worthwhile.  Your life sounds dreadfully boring, and I would never trade my life for yours.

If GC's God is both real and the correct version, one of our excuses could be God kept sending us Christians that we'd never want to be like.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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RE: Thoughts on Hell?
(October 19, 2017 at 4:49 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(October 13, 2017 at 9:21 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Lol, if your god knows what choice I will make, how can I go against it without falsifying his omniscience?

No answer, eh? Big surprise, there.

Actually I did answer, although you chose to just reword the question, the answer is the same.
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RE: Thoughts on Hell?
(October 19, 2017 at 11:47 am)Huggy74 Wrote:
(October 19, 2017 at 4:49 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: No answer, eh? Big surprise, there.

Actually I did answer, although you chose to just reword the question, the answer is the same.

... the same non-answer doesn't interest me, but I don't think you're ready or willing to dig into the substance. It's cool.

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RE: Thoughts on Hell?
(October 19, 2017 at 11:20 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:
Godscreated Wrote:Surely you are not serious, it's wrong in every way imaginable. I did not give that response to that particular post, that entire thing was fabricated from to different post and use as if I were the one who wrote that particular reply to that specific post. A lie is what it is and I have seen that done in the past and someone stated it was against forum rules to post an answer for someone else. It was done to deliberately misrepresent what I might have answered. Another's opinion of what I would have answered doesn't in the least mean I would have given that answer. If you can't see the dishonesty in that kind of behavior then you need to question your understanding of truth.
GC

The lie is clearly in your accusation rather than the post you are slandering. Are you having some sort of brain event?

Apparently he's having delusions of modhood.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Thoughts on Hell?
(October 19, 2017 at 1:28 pm)Cyberman Wrote:
(October 19, 2017 at 11:20 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: The lie is clearly in your accusation rather than the post you are slandering. Are you having some sort of brain event?

Apparently he's having delusions of modhood.

It's an upgrade from his delusions of adequacy.
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RE: Thoughts on Hell?
(October 19, 2017 at 1:25 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:
(October 19, 2017 at 1:18 am)Godscreated Wrote:  I live a very good life because of my relationship with the perfect God. Seeing how He is perfect there is no need in me accepting anything else and every reason for me to stand firm. I believe you can't stand the way I live because so much uncertainty is not a part of my life like it is yours.

GC

Do you really believe in the ancient ethnocentric Middle Eastern Jewish deity named Yahweh, the God of the Hebrews and the God of the armies?

You are kidding right, because He is the triune creator of the universe who has brought salvation to all men through Jesus Christ.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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