(October 14, 2017 at 9:01 am)Mathilda Wrote: Careful, he's using multi-coloured fonts of different sizes.

The dreaded Crayolas of Truth.

Nah, there's no Catch-22 because there's no god, no heaven, no hell, and no reason to believe otherwise.

(October 14, 2017 at 9:18 am)Crossless2.0 Wrote: Appealing to Jesus as the final arbiter of anything is bad enough when it’s done using the canonical Gospels, but leave it to Rik to double down on stupid with the Aquarius Gospel.

Jesus was one of the many real spiritualists that teach the real word of God.
Other were Shiva, Krishna, Buddha, Ramakrishna, St Francis and other.
When you see that these beings teach the same spirituality and when you see that their teachings produce results then you know that you are right.  

(October 14, 2017 at 9:12 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(October 14, 2017 at 9:00 am)Chad32 Wrote: And what about all those atheists who were former christians? They're just not humbling themselves enough? This is why your god gets accused of being lazy, among other criticisms. People who genuinely want to find god aren't finding him, despite his supposed knocking on the door of every soul. It's not a catch 22. It's moving the goalposts.

You mention the word GENUINELY.
Very interesting Chad.

How would you know whether these people were GENUINE or not?  
I know countless religious people who just say that they are religious but within they are interested mainly in materialism.

Materialism make it impossible to be pure within and of course make it impossible to open the door to God.
People have to choose.
They can't have both.  

The no true Scotsman fallacy, and false dichotomy. You're really rolling with these. Yes we all know there are some people that say they're christians just to get along with the rest of a community that might equate being an atheist as being immoral. But there are people who have genuinely tried, and felt nothing. Why does your god have more trouble communicating with me than my parents do?

(October 14, 2017 at 9:04 am)Brian37 Wrote:

(October 14, 2017 at 8:56 am)Little Rik Wrote: Most atheists say..........well if God is real why then He doesn't show to us?

Before to make my comment I show you how Jesus put this question.

19. Unaided by the Spirit-breath, the work of intellection tends to solve the problems of the things we see, and nothing more.
20. The senses were ordained to bring into the mind mere pictures of the things that pass away; they do not deal with real things; they do not comprehend eternal law.
21. But man has something in his soul, a something that will tear the veil apart that he may see the world of real things.
22. We call this something, spirit consciousness; it sleeps in every soul, and cannot be awakened till the Holy Breath becomes a welcome guest.
23. This Holy Breath knocks at the door of every soul, but cannot enter in until the will of man throws wide the door.
24. There is no power in intellect to turn the key; philosophy and science both have toiled to get a glimpse behind the veil; but they have failed.
25. The secret spring that throws ajar the door of soul is touched by nothing else than purity in life, by prayer and holy thought.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/agjc/agjc047.htm

It say.........cannot enter in until the will of man throws wide the door.........

You see?
Is all about opening.
How someone who is not interested in this opening can perceive God.
Isn't it a catch 22 situation?
On one hand atheists would like to get evidence but at the same time they keep the door shut so how can God    
enter?

I guess you guy never thought about it, did you?  

No, we have thought about it, and it is nonsense.

Have you thought about the "holy breath" of Allah? How about the "holy breath" of Yahweh? How about the "fiery breath" of the Hawaiian goddess Pele?

OH THATS RIGHT, out of 7 billion humans you magically picked the correct sky wizard.

Get in line, take a number. 

Different people in different ages gave a different name to God according to the culture in which they live.
They all knew that God is one.
Unfortunately religions ruin everything and started creating dogmas after dogmas in order to say that their God is the real God.
This is the sad story but again me is me and I don't say that my God is the real God because the real God is only one for everybody.  

So more insane gibberish 

(October 14, 2017 at 9:45 am)Chad32 Wrote:

(October 14, 2017 at 9:12 am)Little Rik Wrote: You mention the word GENUINELY.
Very interesting Chad.

How would you know whether these people were GENUINE or not?  
I know countless religious people who just say that they are religious but within they are interested mainly in materialism.

Materialism make it impossible to be pure within and of course make it impossible to open the door to God.
People have to choose.
They can't have both.  

The no true Scotsman fallacy, and false dichotomy. You're really rolling with these. Yes we all know there are some people that say they're christians just to get along with the rest of a community that might equate being an atheist as being immoral. But there are people who have genuinely tried, and felt nothing. Why does your god have more trouble communicating with me than my parents do?

My guess is that you are totally soak in a world of fantasies.

As far as it make sense to you that this universe pop up as per magic and nobody run it then your chances to perceive God are next to zero.
As soon as you will leave this world of fantasies then the door to real Knowledge will open very very fast.  

(October 14, 2017 at 9:56 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(October 14, 2017 at 9:45 am)Chad32 Wrote: The no true Scotsman fallacy, and false dichotomy. You're really rolling with these. Yes we all know there are some people that say they're christians just to get along with the rest of a community that might equate being an atheist as being immoral. But there are people who have genuinely tried, and felt nothing. Why does your god have more trouble communicating with me than my parents do?

My guess is that you are totally soak in a world of fantasies.

As far as it make sense to you that this universe pop up as per magic and nobody run it then your chances to perceive God are next to zero.
As soon as you will leave this world of fantasies then the door to real Knowledge will open very very fast.  

I base my knowledge on the material, yet you think I'm living in fantasy land. You're the one who thinks the universe came from nothing/magic. Some guy from outside space and time spoke everything into existence? That's the story you really want to stick with for where the universe came from?

Quote:My guess is that you are totally soak in a world of fantasies.

(October 14, 2017 at 9:59 am)Chad32 Wrote:

(October 14, 2017 at 9:56 am)Little Rik Wrote: My guess is that you are totally soak in a world of fantasies.

As far as it make sense to you that this universe pop up as per magic and nobody run it then your chances to perceive God are next to zero.
As soon as you will leave this world of fantasies then the door to real Knowledge will open very very fast.  

I base my knowledge on the material, yet you think I'm living in fantasy land. You're the one who thinks the universe came from nothing/magic. Some guy from outside space and time spoke everything into existence? That's the story you really want to stick with for where the universe came from?

Not at all Chad.

I never believe in external guys from outside.
I rather believe that this universe is within God's consciousness.
It is an internal thought projection.

As you can dream on about everything within your imagination God can also do that with the difference that God thought projection is able to create the 5 fundamental factors that made up the universe (space, air, light-energy, water and matter) while we being his metal projection are unable to create any real element.

All we can create are imagination within the real imagination which are worth next to nothing and the only way out this worthless imagination is to go back into the real cosmic mind so everything will be real.