The atheists catch 22 situation.

[Fake Messiah]

Well yeah but we have intuitional science now to properly exploit the spiritual world.

Think about the implications if you can astrally project into people's private quarters and see and hear what they are doing. I'm thinking that there would be huge demand for corporate espionage. How much Samsung pay for example to hear that Apple are going to delay shipping their new iPhone or what they would give to know of planned features. As for governments and the military, well, the need there is obvious. All those spies during war-time risking their lives when they could have just stayed at home and meditated in their bedrooms.

Obviously the astral projection agents need to be well trained and that takes resources. But if we act quick we can corner the market before too many people figure it out from reading books from New Age shops.

Yeah think about it: usually when a person undergoes an astral projection or religious experience and claim they are in communication with some reality from beyond the material world, then we may reasonably expect that person to have gained some deep, new knowledge about the world that can be checked against the empirical facts.
But nope. They always return with messages from beyond about how we humans should all love and care for one another, be kind to animals, preserve the environment, and not eat too much red meat.
Very similar like aliens that travel large distances of outer space only to make signs in crops containing messages that we should take care of the planet and to follow Jesus.

[Little Rik]

Well yeah but we have intuitional science now to properly exploit the spiritual world.

Think about the implications if you can astrally project into people's private quarters and see and hear what they are doing. I'm thinking that there would be huge demand for corporate espionage. How much Samsung pay for example to hear that Apple are going to delay shipping their new iPhone or what they would give to know of planned features. As for governments and the military, well, the need there is obvious. All those spies during war-time risking their lives when they could have just stayed at home and meditated in their bedrooms.

Obviously the astral projection agents need to be well trained and that takes resources. But if we act quick we can corner the market before too many people figure it out from reading books from New Age shops.

Yeah think about it: usually when a person undergoes an astral projection or religious experience and claim they are in communication with some reality from beyond the material world, then we may reasonably expect that person to have gained some deep, new knowledge about the world that can be checked against the empirical facts.
But nope. They always return with messages from beyond about how we humans should all love and care for one another, be kind to animals, preserve the environment, and not eat too much red meat.
Very similar like aliens that travel large distances of outer space only to make signs in crops containing messages that we should take care of the planet and to follow Jesus.

Intuitional science does not lead to achieve occult powers.

Occult powers can be achieved with other methods.
Anyone with a bit of brain will reject occult powers even if that will allow you to do things that normal people can not do.
It is very very dangerous to play with something bigger than we can afford to do normally.
If God decide that we will have to experience bad karma due to our previous actions then let it be.
That will be good anyway.
The sooner we get rid of our bad karma the sooner we will be liberated.

Intelligent people leave astral projections and occult power to fools to play with.  

[ignoramus]

LittleRik will tell you that this life is a test for the next true real one.

This one is just about denial and error

[I_am_not_mafia]

Intuitional science does not lead to achieve occult powers.

Argh! You led me on!

Occult powers can be achieved with other methods.

What other methods?

Wait ... are you saying that astral projection isn't an occult power? Is there even more that I can do? Is there a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural?

Anyone with a bit of brain will reject occult powers even if that will allow you to do things that normal people can not do.
...

It is very very dangerous to play with something bigger than we can afford to do normally.

Yeah not interested in the small print and disclaimers.

[Cyberman]

'Intuitional science' does not lead to anything.

[Whateverist]

'Intuitional science' does not lead to anything.

Funny it almost always confirms all my favorite beliefs. That is pretty useful if you really like those and don't feel like budging.

[Fake Messiah]

Intuitional science does not lead to achieve occult powers.

[Little Rik]

'Intuitional science' does not lead to anything.

Cyb.  

How can I argue with the guru of the atheist forum?  
Impossible.  

You surely must have tried this type of science to know whether it works or not.  

Could you please help LR to understand how you practice this science.  

Your help will be invaluable to me.  

[I_am_not_mafia]

In the meantime, could you tell me what powers I can get from the occult please?

Pretty please?                

[Fidel_Castronaut]

'Intuitional science' does not lead to anything.

Did we ever find out what was in that box?