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RE: Lets say that tomorow it will be proven that God doesn't exist , religion will fade ,
October 15, 2017 at 11:32 am
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(October 15, 2017 at 3:25 am)notimportant1234 Wrote: (October 14, 2017 at 10:35 pm)Whateverist Wrote: You can't prove no god any easier than you can god so long as 'god' remains undefined. Next question.
I see the problem " Does God exist?" irelevant, because it doesn't affect us.
God's existential status doesn't matter to me either, but it certainly does affect a good portion of the population in the U.S., especially the enormous chunk that subscribes to a fundamentalism.
But the point of what I wrote was to say that the premise in this thread's title is faulty because disproof like proof of the undefined is not possible. So speculation about a tomorrow that follows upon the impossible is pointless.
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RE: Lets say that tomorow it will be proven that God doesn't exist , religion will fade ,
October 15, 2017 at 1:01 pm
(October 14, 2017 at 7:54 pm)notimportant1234 Wrote: I think that it wouldn't do anything good!
Well it is posible to lead the world in chaos but not something good will come out of it .
Well considering that there is nothing unique to religion that is good, I am calling bullshit on your argument, if you could even call it one.
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RE: Lets say that tomorow it will be proven that God doesn't exist , religion will fade ,
October 15, 2017 at 4:45 pm
(October 15, 2017 at 1:01 pm)Tazzycorn Wrote: (October 14, 2017 at 7:54 pm)notimportant1234 Wrote: I think that it wouldn't do anything good!
Well it is posible to lead the world in chaos but not something good will come out of it .
Well considering that there is nothing unique to religion that is good, I am calling bullshit on your argument, if you could even call it one.
So are you saying that if religion will suddenly disapear , people that depend emotionally on it won't be affected ?
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RE: Lets say that tomorow it will be proven that God doesn't exist , religion will fade ,
October 15, 2017 at 5:55 pm
I'm pretty sure not much would change. Maybe a little less terrorism.
But I would bet that most people are more ethically bound by laws and customs than by their religious mores. I think human societies are remarkably corrective.
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RE: Lets say that tomorow it will be proven that God doesn't exist , religion will fade ,
October 15, 2017 at 6:06 pm
Depends on the laws , in my country the laws are very easy going , so people aren't really afraid of them. For killing a men with premeditation the penitence is from 15 too 25 years .
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RE: Lets say that tomorow it will be proven that God doesn't exist , religion will fade ,
October 15, 2017 at 6:08 pm
Silly topic creator, even if there were empirical evidence there was no god--the Christians and Muslims and Jews and whatnot would all just say they don't believe the evidence. Many of them already do it for evolution.
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RE: Lets say that tomorow it will be proven that God doesn't exist , religion will fade ,
October 15, 2017 at 6:15 pm
(October 15, 2017 at 6:08 pm)Cecelia Wrote: Silly topic creator, even if there were empirical evidence there was no god--the Christians and Muslims and Jews and whatnot would all just say they don't believe the evidence. Many of them already do it for evolution.
Yeah that is a real problem . This I think it comes from fear. The only way to overcome that is to rationalise.
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RE: Lets say that tomorow it will be proven that God doesn't exist , religion will fade ,
October 15, 2017 at 6:18 pm
Religion would fade but the die-hards would remain, and likely become more desperate in their tactics.
I have encountered a number of Christians who have stated, categorically, that if their god or holy book was proven 100% false, that they would still believe.
Let that sink in.
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RE: Lets say that tomorow it will be proven that God doesn't exist , religion will fade ,
October 15, 2017 at 6:28 pm
The saddest thing isn't that they think that way of religion , is that this way of thinking resonates in all the aspects of their life .
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RE: Lets say that tomorow it will be proven that God doesn't exist , religion will fade ,
October 15, 2017 at 7:28 pm
(October 15, 2017 at 6:06 pm)notimportant1234 Wrote: Depends on the laws , in my country the laws are very easy going , so people aren't really afraid of them. For killing a men with premeditation the penitence is from 15 too 25 years .
15 years is a long damn time. I'm not sure what your point is here.
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