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RE: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
November 15, 2017 at 2:25 pm
(November 13, 2017 at 4:43 pm)SteveII Wrote: (November 13, 2017 at 1:26 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Can anyone think of an example of an object or entity that has actually been proven to exist by argument alone, no evidence, besides a deity? If that could be done, it would prove that at least it's possible for something to be proven to exist by argument alone.
Like all abstract objects, ever.
https://stanford.library.sydney.edu.au/a...t-objects/ Ah you mean concepts.
So god is an anthropomorphism of abstract concepts!
I can agree with that.
God is truth.
God is justice.
God is morality.
God is beauty.
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RE: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
November 15, 2017 at 2:29 pm
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(November 15, 2017 at 2:19 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: The butthurt is strong with this one.
Sorry, I guess I shouldn't have insulted your creativity since you clearly don't have any.
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RE: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
November 15, 2017 at 2:41 pm
(November 15, 2017 at 1:06 pm)lol Cyberman Wrote: (November 15, 2017 at 9:59 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: You mean like your first two posts: HERE and HERE
If those are what you think passes for addressing the topic then maybe you should go back to smoking the poles of Canadian truck drivers in Calgary weight stations.
That's it, Neo. That's how you demonstrate that xtian lurve to the heathen. Teach by example. They're sure to listen to you like that.
You think he talks like that in church? Remember Neo, Jesus sees your AF posts.
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RE: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
November 15, 2017 at 3:31 pm
(November 15, 2017 at 2:24 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: (November 15, 2017 at 2:12 pm)Cyberman Wrote: Has anyone ever told you that your other cheek is very similar to your first one?
You know I have always considered trading insults on AF primarily an unserious form of verbal jousting and playful taunting. Mostly, except for notable exceptions. And in those cases Christ's advice was not about letting people repeatedly make false accusations without consequences.
I agree, I enjoy the linguistic exercise myself. Just pointing out the mote in your eye, that's all.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
November 15, 2017 at 3:37 pm
(November 15, 2017 at 3:31 pm)Cyberman Wrote: (November 15, 2017 at 2:24 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: You know I have always considered trading insults on AF primarily an unserious form of verbal jousting and playful taunting. Mostly, except for notable exceptions. And in those cases Christ's advice was not about letting people repeatedly make false accusations without consequences.
I agree, I enjoy the linguistic exercise myself. Just pointing out the mote in your eye, that's all.
FWIW I have always admired your epic wit.
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RE: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
November 15, 2017 at 4:16 pm
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(November 15, 2017 at 3:37 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: (November 15, 2017 at 3:31 pm)Cyberman Wrote: I agree, I enjoy the linguistic exercise myself. Just pointing out the mote in your eye, that's all.
FWIW I have always admired your epic wit.
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to study for my Canadian CDL.
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RE: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
November 15, 2017 at 4:17 pm
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(November 15, 2017 at 3:37 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: (November 15, 2017 at 3:31 pm)Cyberman Wrote: I agree, I enjoy the linguistic exercise myself. Just pointing out the mote in your eye, that's all.
FWIW I have always admired your epic wit.
You're only human 
(Joking apart, I truly do appreciate that. Thanks!)
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RE: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
November 15, 2017 at 4:41 pm
(November 15, 2017 at 12:47 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: (November 15, 2017 at 12:33 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: And without a mind to form a concept by abstraction, what would be the status of some potentially abstractable quality? It seems that it would remain unabstracted, and be none the worse for it.
That would make the quality something objectively real independent of any mind perceiving it. If there were no minds, diamonds would still be hard, wood would still be flammable, stars would still have mass, photons would still travel at the speed of light, and collections of objects would still be numerable.
But a god would not exist.
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RE: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
November 15, 2017 at 4:48 pm
(November 15, 2017 at 2:22 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I see no indication of Chad being butthurt. Looks like he's pointing out an inconsistency he sees in you accusing him of not contributing.
He told Jor to go back to sucking the cocks of random strangers after she merely pointed out that a particular video he was criticizing some of us for posting was actually relevant and informative, lol. That's pretty unnecessarily nasty, IMO. If it had been Min saying it to a Theist...
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RE: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
November 15, 2017 at 4:53 pm
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(November 15, 2017 at 4:41 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: (November 15, 2017 at 12:47 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: That would make the quality something objectively real independent of any mind perceiving it. If there were no minds, diamonds would still be hard, wood would still be flammable, stars would still have mass, photons would still travel at the speed of light, and collections of objects would still be numerable.
But a god would not exist.
That's not a relevant response. You are taking the position that being numerable is not a real quality, an anti-realist position that extends to all objective qualities. Am I to assume that you are an Idealist? Could be problematic for an atheist.
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