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Was I traumatized by religion?
#11
RE: Was I traumatized by religion?
I think you'll find that the brainwashing wears off with time, it did for me.

However, if you think that you suffer from religious persecution personality disorder/complex/phobia and it is adversely impacting your life then you might want to talk to a professional at some point.
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#12
RE: Was I traumatized by religion?
(December 2, 2017 at 4:50 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: I think you'll find that the brainwashing wears off with time, it did for me.

However, if you think that you suffer from religious persecution personality disorder/complex/phobia and it is adversely impacting your life then you might want to talk to a professional at some point.

I will see. To be fair, the brainwashing is wearing off.
"By simple common sense I don't believe in God, in none"

Charlie Chaplin
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#13
RE: Was I traumatized by religion?
(December 2, 2017 at 2:19 pm)Die Atheistin Wrote: My family is moderate, but I learned religion in shool the fundamentalist way. I became a moderate thanks to one of my dad's friends. I offically became an atheist at age 17.
I don't worry about any of the teachings being real, what still bothers me is the fact itself that I was brainwashed. I'm neither happy nor sad most of the time, and I feel happines more than sadness, but sometimes the religious memories haunt me. I thought about going to a specialist, but I'm afraid that my family might find out about it. I will move to another country the next year, I might seek help there.

The world is filled with a misunderstanding of God, as well as the natural tendency to resent God and hate him. So you can see that a false idea of God or a false religion will ensure that this condition is not eleviated.
Many people blame the Bible for draconian ideas, and they will misquote it or take things out of context. The Bible is actually not read by the vast majority - both in the secular and religious world.
This ignorance coupled with false doctrines has totally eclipsed the truth.
But people prefer this darkness, and will resist any attempts to free themselves of it. Why? I don't know.

To give you a prime example of persistent ignorance, both religious and non religious people have this vague sentiment that when a person dies, they have this inner component of life that goes on forever, when in fact they return to the dust. 
The Bible does not teach the doctrine of an eternal soul, but it teaches that this life is the real life and that there is no consciousness after death, and that the only way that man can live after death, is if they are physically resurrected, or made new - (with all the original DNA and atoms, and personal consciousness in order). 
ALL that have died will experience this resurrection in two separate events.

From this "eternal soul" fallacy, pagan and so called Christian religions have peddled the fallacy of an eternal torture called hell.
The doctrine of hell is the greatest turn off in religion, it is utterly absurd, it flies in the face of true justice and mercy, and makes God out to be a tyrant.

As I said before, people will remain ignorant and resist the truth. They will even try to enforce the idea that the Bible actually teaches eternal torture by quoting a few texts out of context, and by insisting that certain words like "hell" can only mean what they think.

There are two extremes in religion - trying to earn salvation or presuming to be saved regardless of action and choices. Both extremes do not involve being vulnerable and communicating with God.

So both false religion and atheism have a common factor - they forfeit a relationship with God.
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#14
RE: Was I traumatized by religion?
I thought 7th dayers get either eternal reward or nothing vs eternal reward or eternal punishment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventh-da...ch#Beliefs

How can I hate something that does not exist? How can I have a relationship for something that does not exist?

And just curious, which schism of 7th day are you?
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RE: Was I traumatized by religion?
(December 2, 2017 at 3:22 pm)Die Atheistin Wrote:
(December 2, 2017 at 3:19 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: One thing for sure, it's not the worst stuff out there. People are dying like flies in stupid ways.

You mean that there are worse Bible teachings? I would expect worse stuff, I just wanna know if that's what you meant.

Well "worse" varies from person to person. Though the fear of hell is quite prevalent, some other traumas can arise from overzealous interpretations of the text like "Jesus is suffering for your sins and each time you forget to pray, one more thorn is added to his crown. You are making him suffer! ".. For a normal empathetic child this can cause quite a trauma.
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RE: Was I traumatized by religion?
(December 2, 2017 at 7:46 pm)Aoi Magi Wrote:
(December 2, 2017 at 3:22 pm)Die Atheistin Wrote: You mean that there are worse Bible teachings? I would expect worse stuff, I just wanna know if that's what you meant.

Well "worse" varies from person to person. Though the fear of hell is quite prevalent, some other traumas can arise from overzealous interpretations of the text like "Jesus is suffering for your sins and each time you forget to pray, one more thorn is added to his crown. You are making him suffer! ".. For a normal empathetic child this can cause quite a trauma.

Yeah, now I remember hearing that part about Jesus suffering for our sins even after the Cruxifiction.
"By simple common sense I don't believe in God, in none"

Charlie Chaplin
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#17
RE: Was I traumatized by religion?
(December 2, 2017 at 6:28 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: I thought 7th dayers get either eternal reward or nothing vs eternal reward or eternal punishment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventh-da...ch#Beliefs

How can I hate something that does not exist? How can I have a relationship for something that does not exist?

And just curious, which schism of 7th day are you?

Firstly, immortality or eternal life is conditional, as listed in the link you supplied. Eternal life is not given to the wicked, because "the wages of sin is death" not eternal life as many false religions teach.

How can you hate something that does not exist? Only if you're insane. But has it ever occured to you to ask God to open up a connection in your mind? You want signs and proof? Ask. If you really want something ask. And read the KJV Bible, it claims to be the "inspired" book of God.

What schism of 7th day am I? 

If you know about schisms, you already know enough to be held accountable for your personal position on it.
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#18
RE: Was I traumatized by religion?
(December 2, 2017 at 3:22 pm)Die Atheistin Wrote:
(December 2, 2017 at 3:19 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: One thing for sure, it's not the worst stuff out there. People are dying like flies in stupid ways.

You mean that there are worse Bible teachings? I would expect worse stuff, I just wanna know if that's what you meant.

Shit from the Hadith is worse than teaching from the Bible (it's also worse than the Koran, I hear). Because, thankfully, people don't take the very worst of the Old Testament literally anymore. And that isn't the case about Islam, sadly.
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RE: Was I traumatized by religion?
(December 2, 2017 at 5:41 pm)Starhunter Wrote:
(December 2, 2017 at 2:19 pm)Die Atheistin Wrote: My family is moderate, but I learned religion in shool the fundamentalist way. I became a moderate thanks to one of my dad's friends. I offically became an atheist at age 17.
I don't worry about any of the teachings being real, what still bothers me is the fact itself that I was brainwashed. I'm neither happy nor sad most of the time, and I feel happines more than sadness, but sometimes the religious memories haunt me. I thought about going to a specialist, but I'm afraid that my family might find out about it. I will move to another country the next year, I might seek help there.

The world is filled with a misunderstanding of God, 


That took a good deal of honesty and self insight.  Well done.
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#20
RE: Was I traumatized by religion?
(December 8, 2017 at 7:14 am)Starhunter Wrote:
(December 2, 2017 at 6:28 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: I thought 7th dayers get either eternal reward or nothing vs eternal reward or eternal punishment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventh-da...ch#Beliefs

How can I hate something that does not exist? How can I have a relationship for something that does not exist?

And just curious, which schism of 7th day are you?

Firstly, immortality or eternal life is conditional, as listed in the link you supplied. Eternal life is not given to the wicked, because "the wages of sin is death" not eternal life as many false religions teach.

How can you hate something that does not exist? Only if you're insane. But has it ever occured to you to ask God to open up a connection in your mind? You want signs and proof? Ask. If you really want something ask. And read the KJV Bible, it claims to be the "inspired" book of God.

What schism of 7th day am I? 

If you know about schisms, you already know enough to be held accountable for your personal position on it.

OK, so eternal or nothing, got it.

god does not exist, so you are delusional. You picked the word insane. It's not one I would have chosen for you, not at least until I get to know you better. 

I didn't identify the schism, the web site did. I simply asked the question.
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