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RE: Paranoia
December 7, 2017 at 4:10 pm
I feel bad for anyone who gets traumatized by this for a year or more. I've heard different views on what hell is, but I'm fairly certain the mainstream view is the lake of fire version, since it's the one based on the real life canyon that was constantly on fire. Telling kids they'll be set on fire if they don't act right is not good parenting.
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RE: Paranoia
December 7, 2017 at 4:10 pm
(December 7, 2017 at 3:50 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: (December 7, 2017 at 3:40 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: About 3.
How do you deal with the idea that you will "fall asleep" in a dream without dreams someday and won't wake up? Although, when you hear world religions offering you a slav... I mean service to the Lord as alternative, it's as bad as being dead.
The concept of death doesn't bother me.
As you say, a dreamless sleep.
The process of dying can be a bit scary, of course.
But I really don't dwell on it.
Too much living to do/
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RE: Paranoia
December 7, 2017 at 4:17 pm
Less than a year. Although occasionally I did have stray thoughts concerning "The End Times" of all things.
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RE: Paranoia
December 7, 2017 at 4:19 pm
Heh. And they say we have "Good News".
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RE: Paranoia
December 7, 2017 at 4:35 pm
About as much time as it took to get rid of all the promised good stuff that they could not provide evidence for.
If this tortures you so........... why don't you just be religious? No skin off my back.
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RE: Paranoia
December 7, 2017 at 5:11 pm
(December 7, 2017 at 3:40 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: Do you have doubts that God might exist in some form or the other?
You've derailed your one thread in five moves.
Define 'god'.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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RE: Paranoia
December 7, 2017 at 5:19 pm
(This post was last modified: December 7, 2017 at 5:20 pm by Aegon.)
(December 7, 2017 at 3:50 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: (December 7, 2017 at 3:40 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: About 3.
How do you deal with the idea that you will "fall asleep" in a dream without dreams someday and won't wake up? Although, when you hear world religions offering you a slav... I mean service to the Lord as alternative, it's as bad as being dead.
I know you put "fall asleep" in quotes but I don't like that comparison. It implies that your consciousness will now be trapped in darkness for all eternity. But that's not true. You just aren't going to exist. Your consciousness will cease to be. We can't imagine what it's like, because we can't recall experiencing non-experience, that's obviously impossible.
I'd be lying if I said I don't fear dying, i.e. no longer being able to live and experience life, but I have absolutely no fear of being dead or what's on the other side. Even as a child raised Catholic I never put too much thought into it.
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RE: Paranoia
December 7, 2017 at 6:14 pm
Yeah, it's the dying that's the shitty part. A parade of indignity piled atop indignity..and then, thankfully, it's over, lol.
Ironically, the worst part of death is when you're still alive.
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RE: Paranoia
December 7, 2017 at 7:54 pm
(December 7, 2017 at 3:03 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: How many years it took you to extinguish fear of hell?
Never believed in that shit.
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RE: Paranoia
December 8, 2017 at 11:39 am
(This post was last modified: December 8, 2017 at 11:40 am by Norfolk And Chance.)
(December 7, 2017 at 5:19 pm)Aegon Wrote: (December 7, 2017 at 3:50 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: How do you deal with the idea that you will "fall asleep" in a dream without dreams someday and won't wake up? Although, when you hear world religions offering you a slav... I mean service to the Lord as alternative, it's as bad as being dead.
I know you put "fall asleep" in quotes but I don't like that comparison. It implies that your consciousness will now be trapped in darkness for all eternity. But that's not true. You just aren't going to exist. Your consciousness will cease to be. We can't imagine what it's like, because we can't recall experiencing non-experience, that's obviously impossible.
I'd be lying if I said I don't fear dying, i.e. no longer being able to live and experience life, but I have absolutely no fear of being dead or what's on the other side. Even as a child raised Catholic I never put too much thought into it.
IMO, anybody who has been under general anaesthetic will have a good idea what it's like to not exist any more. When you're unconscious you have no senses of anything - although your body is still living, "you" cease to exist during that unconsciousness.
If you believe that what makes "you" is your consciousness, then take it away for two hours (under anaesthetic), or take it away for ever (death), the total non experience should be the same.
Alternatively think of the billions of years before you were born, which you weren't conscious of, and didn't exist in. If death is ceasing to exist, then it logically has to be the same when you die, as before you were born.
I'd say we all know too well what it's like to not exist - it's nothing - but many people can't or don't want to face up to it.
You are currently experiencing a lucky and very brief window of awareness, sandwiched in between two periods of timeless and utter nothingness. So why not make the most of it, and stop wasting your life away trying to convince other people that there is something else? The reality is obvious.
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