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RE: Why, God? Why?!
February 9, 2018 at 4:25 pm
(February 9, 2018 at 4:17 pm)Banned Wrote: (February 7, 2018 at 10:17 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I have a question for our Christians: Why did God create people? Further, why did he create anything at all?
To any reader,
the answer to this question begins with recieving the love of God, and the response to this information can only be resistance or surrender.
Habits of thinking determined what you thought about it. No the answer begins with actually having an answer not kicking the can down the mystic road . And demanding people drink the kool aid.
Nope thinking determines comes to the conclusion that your claims a gibberish
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RE: Why, God? Why?!
February 9, 2018 at 4:46 pm
(February 9, 2018 at 4:25 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: (February 9, 2018 at 4:17 pm)Banned Wrote: To any reader,
the answer to this question begins with recieving the love of God, and the response to this information can only be resistance or surrender.
Habits of thinking determined what you thought about it. No the answer begins with actually having an answer not kicking the can down the mystic road . And demanding people drink the kool aid.
Nope thinking determines comes to the conclusion that your claims a gibberish
Thank you for a fine example of resistence. There'll be many like it.
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RE: Why, God? Why?!
February 9, 2018 at 4:47 pm
(February 9, 2018 at 4:02 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Unrequited love is stalking.
Right? Sometimes a guy would like a few minutes to himself. 
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RE: Why, God? Why?!
February 9, 2018 at 4:57 pm
Quote:Thank you for a fine example of resistence. There'll be many like it.
Than you for giving an example of why religion is bollocks. No doubt you will provide many more examples like it .
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RE: Why, God? Why?!
February 9, 2018 at 5:02 pm
(February 9, 2018 at 4:02 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: As Steve explained earlier on in the thread, it is precisely because God IS perfectly good that He would desire to share His love with other beings. The 2 go together. They are not mutually exclussive.
If Yahweh existed all by his lonesome before creation why would he have emotions if he had nothing to display them against?
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RE: Why, God? Why?!
February 9, 2018 at 6:06 pm
To the Stalin question.
Wouldn't it be easier for god to simply not allow Stalin's to be born given his supposed foreknowledge ?
If his reason for slaughtering some, well correction getting the poor Israelites to murder and slaughter in his name because the slaughtered would someday do mischief of their own is valid. Then are we to assume that those killed by Stalin and Hitler were likewise guilty ?
Otherwise why not simply not allow them to be born, given his full knowledge of what they would do ?
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RE: Why, God? Why?!
February 9, 2018 at 6:15 pm
(February 9, 2018 at 1:23 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I just don’t understand why, or how, a perfectly whole, complete, and self-fulfilling being could want something. To want, means you are experiencing desire for something that you don’t presently have. How does an Omni-everything, perfectly complete and self-fulfilling entity lack something?
Does the Bible claim that God is an "Omni-everything, perfectly complete and self-fulfilling entity" according to your understanding of those terms?
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RE: Why, God? Why?!
February 9, 2018 at 6:16 pm
Perfection includes having desire.
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RE: Why, God? Why?!
February 9, 2018 at 7:01 pm
(February 9, 2018 at 6:06 pm)possibletarian Wrote: To the Stalin question.
Wouldn't it be easier for god to simply not allow Stalin's to be born given his supposed foreknowledge ?
If his reason for slaughtering some, well correction getting the poor Israelites to murder and slaughter in his name because the slaughtered would someday do mischief of their own is valid. Then are we to assume that those killed by Stalin and Hitler were likewise guilty ?
Otherwise why not simply not allow them to be born, given his full knowledge of what they would do ?
Here's the thing, to put it simply everyone's a Stalin...
I suppose you've heard the phrase "absolute power corrupts absolutely"? That is not exactly accurate, one is already corrupt, it's just that power is the vehicle for one to fully realize the corruption.
What if Stalin never gained any power but was instead a homeless bum? He's still the exact same person he just has no power. God judges the heart so in the eyes of God, there is no difference between Stalin the dictator and Stalin the bum, because given the opportunity the bum would do the exact same thing given the power to do so.
Even Khemikal proved he had a little Stalin in him when he basically stated he'd let humanity be wiped from existence where it concerns his kid.
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RE: Why, God? Why?!
February 9, 2018 at 7:03 pm
(February 9, 2018 at 10:18 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (February 9, 2018 at 10:15 am)Succubus Wrote: He's omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent. He owns the fucking place and therefore wants and needs nothing.
It is true that He needs nothing.
But I don't see why being omni all those things means you can't want anything.
His will and the satisfaction of it are distinct but inseparable.
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