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RE: Active Shooter At You Tube Headquarters
April 3, 2018 at 10:33 pm
(April 3, 2018 at 9:08 pm)Shell B Wrote: Not everyone is "the right" or speaking from a place of gun control. Sometimes, people are just talking about something that happened, and it's natural to ponder why.
Shell, if we didn't have the amount of firearm violence I'd agree.
I do get what you are saying. But the majority of the time when we go down that road it provides the right the distraction they want.
If we only had the same volume of firearm fatalities as say Australia or Japan, the "why" would be more appropriate as a front burner issue.
We are not at a point in history where the motive matters. Until the flooded market and ease of access is tackled our focus should be on that, not motive.
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RE: Active Shooter At You Tube Headquarters
April 3, 2018 at 10:48 pm
(April 3, 2018 at 10:33 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (April 3, 2018 at 9:08 pm)Shell B Wrote: Not everyone is "the right" or speaking from a place of gun control. Sometimes, people are just talking about something that happened, and it's natural to ponder why.
Shell, if we didn't have the amount of firearm violence I'd agree.
I do get what you are saying. But the majority of the time when we go down that road it provides the right the distraction they want.
If we only had the same volume of firearm fatalities as say Australia or Japan, the "why" would be more appropriate as a front burner issue.
We are not at a point in history where the motive matters. Until the flooded market and ease of access is tackled our focus should be on that, not motive.
Brian, it’s human nature to ask yourself, “gee, I wonder why he did it?” I mean, human interest in the psychology of motive lead to profilers being able to identify common attributes in serial killers and child molesters. Just because people wonder why someone did something, doesn’t mean they’re pushing a a political agenda. You have to be able to compartmentalize better.
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RE: Active Shooter At You Tube Headquarters
April 3, 2018 at 10:49 pm
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(April 3, 2018 at 8:02 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (April 3, 2018 at 7:30 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Um no it is not.
Aileen Wuornos female serial killer whom used a GUN.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aileen_Wuornos
Christy Sheats murdered her two daughters on her front lawn WITH A GUN
https://everipedia.org/wiki/christy-byrd-sheats/
San Bernadino shooters, one was female
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_San_B...ino_attack
A married couple and Bundy Snack Patriot couple murdered two cops crossed the street and SHE MURDERED a civilian in a Walmart.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Las_Vegas_shootings
And that is just the tip of the iceberg.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/you...rs-n862551
A lone woman going on a mass shooting spree is certainly new.
Rare you could argue, but NOT NEW, not even close.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvia_Seegrist
And when I say "rare" I DONT MEAN scarce. I mean ratio wise when it comes to humans shooting more than one human in one setting men will do it more often. But again, when you are talking about ALL firearm fatalities most of them are IN THE HOME, and most of the victims are WOMEN AND KIDS.
(April 3, 2018 at 10:48 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: (April 3, 2018 at 10:33 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Shell, if we didn't have the amount of firearm violence I'd agree.
I do get what you are saying. But the majority of the time when we go down that road it provides the right the distraction they want.
If we only had the same volume of firearm fatalities as say Australia or Japan, the "why" would be more appropriate as a front burner issue.
We are not at a point in history where the motive matters. Until the flooded market and ease of access is tackled our focus should be on that, not motive.
Brian, it’s human nature to ask yourself, “gee, I wonder why he did it?” I mean, human interest in the psychology of motive lead to profilers being able to identify common attributes in serial killers and child molesters. Just because people wonder why someone did something, doesn’t mean they’re pushing a a political agenda. You have to be able to compartmentalize better.
I agree.
BUT AGAIN, when you have a flooded market and anyone REGARDLESS can gain access to a weapon legally with no record, then go on after the legal buy to kill someone, or if someone gets their gun illegally stolen, and they murder someone, IN BOTH cases, the point is moot.
The motif may be to many a "human interest" story, but again, at this point in history, our flooded market and ease of access seems to me to be a far more important focus, considering the countless murders we have with a variety of countless motives.
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RE: Active Shooter At You Tube Headquarters
April 3, 2018 at 11:31 pm
Can you imagine how useless the conversation would be if it was only about gun control all the time? It's possible to look at multiple facets of a problem. Some people aren't single-minded when it comes to problem-solving. Talking about motive certainly doesn't mean I'm disinterested in or even distracted from the issue of gun control. I'm just not talking about it at the moment. It's utterly pointless to discuss it here. The right wins or loses nothing from my focus on another topic in this environment.
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RE: Active Shooter At You Tube Headquarters
April 4, 2018 at 12:09 am
Shooter identified as Nasim Aghdam, who apparently was pissed about you tube censoring some of her stuff. Yep, sounds like a complete nut job.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Active Shooter At You Tube Headquarters
April 4, 2018 at 6:11 am
(April 4, 2018 at 12:09 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Shooter identified as Nasim Aghdam, who apparently was pissed about you tube censoring some of her stuff. Yep, sounds like a complete nut job.
Yep, not a domestic, just an editorial issue.
T.rump will go spastic because she's not a WASP, of course.
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RE: Active Shooter At You Tube Headquarters
April 4, 2018 at 7:55 am
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: Active Shooter At You Tube Headquarters
April 4, 2018 at 8:06 am
Something of a narcissist.
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RE: Active Shooter At You Tube Headquarters
April 4, 2018 at 8:19 am
Persian vegan body-builder animal-rights activist with a fundamental misunderstanding of free speech and clear mental imbalances. That's the weirdest one in a while.
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RE: Active Shooter At You Tube Headquarters
April 4, 2018 at 8:23 am
(April 4, 2018 at 8:19 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Persian vegan body-builder animal-rights activist with a fundamental misunderstanding of free speech and clear mental imbalances. That's the weirdest one in a while.
Excluding White House residents, of course.
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